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<blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 8967747" data-attributes="member: 6801209">ok.dirty fighting: replace on of your attacks to do one of the following.&nbsp; A creature is then immune to dirty fighting for 24 hours.-dex save or be blind for 1 round-con save or be dazed for 1 round.Your DM may rule that some actions are unavailable in certain situations.&nbsp; For instance, throwing dirt into someone's eyes might not work while underwater.Stun is too strong to just allow anyone to try IMO.Multi-attack makes them better.Also action surgei strongly disagreeyou don't need one, but other people do.&nbsp; And not just newbs.&nbsp; Some people just don't have the same mental capacity that you do.&nbsp; Either due to age, injury, or they just like to drink while they play.&nbsp; They deserve to have a class to play.DnD is for everyone.But for the remainder of this thread, I'll refer to it as a &quot;brute&quot;, so as to keep the conversation constructive.All fighters can already attack, trip, grapple, or push.Superiority dice let you attack and trip.Or grapple as a bonus action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mellored, post: 8967747, member: 6801209"] ok. dirty fighting: replace on of your attacks to do one of the following. A creature is then immune to dirty fighting for 24 hours. -dex save or be blind for 1 round -con save or be dazed for 1 round. Your DM may rule that some actions are unavailable in certain situations. For instance, throwing dirt into someone's eyes might not work while underwater. Stun is too strong to just allow anyone to try IMO. Multi-attack makes them better. Also action surge i strongly disagree [B][I]you[/I][/B] don't need one, but other people do. And not just newbs. Some people just don't have the same mental capacity that you do. Either due to age, injury, or they just like to drink while they play. They deserve to have a class to play. DnD is for everyone. But for the remainder of this thread, I'll refer to it as a "brute", so as to keep the conversation constructive. All fighters can already attack, trip, grapple, or push. Superiority dice let you attack [B]and[/B] trip. Or grapple [I][B]as a bonus action[/B][/I][B].[/B] [/QUOTE]

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