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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8970378" data-attributes="member: 82504">Yes in some ways Eldritch Knight is a multi-class without multi-classing but why the BM is innadequate as a Warlord and (even a better written) PDK probably would be too... is because a multi-class is not going to reflect the archetype of one of its parent nearly as well as the full thing.Oh and Eldritch one has another heritage it is not reflecting well but definitely tries to... 4e had a great class in the Swordmage many of its mechanisms were incorporated in the Eldritch Knight but kind of poorly (even the copies of its at-will powers in 5e are lamer versions).Another strange bit -> The echo knight was cribbed from spamming 1 power from the 4e SM.</blockquote>