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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8974614" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Yep. I think a good analogy is to look at new players or kids and how they play. They don't know all the rules so they don't have pre-conceived notions on what you can or can't do. They just make stuff up on the fly. It's like how we did it in the old days (and still do, for many of us). Just because a class is mechanically simpler doesn't mean it's played simpler. You can do/attempt everything a battlemaster can do, but you just do it narratively or with a simple ability check or something.</p><p></p><p>I think the group of folks who seem to think you can't do something unless there's a rule for it are doing the class (and its fans) a disservice by that assumption. And before someone chimes in, no "mother may I" typically isn't a problem because most of us play with average to decent DMs and in over 40 years of playing, I can only think of one time where a DM wanted to dictate what players could do unreasonably. </p><p></p><p>This assumption that a champion fighter can't do anything needs to die in fire, IMO, because it's totally false. Don't confuse my position here with one that is against complex fighters or rules (more power to them). Just because I'm defending the champion doesn't mean I'm attacking the battlemaster.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8974614, member: 15700"] Yep. I think a good analogy is to look at new players or kids and how they play. They don't know all the rules so they don't have pre-conceived notions on what you can or can't do. They just make stuff up on the fly. It's like how we did it in the old days (and still do, for many of us). Just because a class is mechanically simpler doesn't mean it's played simpler. You can do/attempt everything a battlemaster can do, but you just do it narratively or with a simple ability check or something. I think the group of folks who seem to think you can't do something unless there's a rule for it are doing the class (and its fans) a disservice by that assumption. And before someone chimes in, no "mother may I" typically isn't a problem because most of us play with average to decent DMs and in over 40 years of playing, I can only think of one time where a DM wanted to dictate what players could do unreasonably. This assumption that a champion fighter can't do anything needs to die in fire, IMO, because it's totally false. Don't confuse my position here with one that is against complex fighters or rules (more power to them). Just because I'm defending the champion doesn't mean I'm attacking the battlemaster. [/QUOTE]
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