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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 6360707" data-attributes="member: 1879">I was thinking about the whole "Feats are optional" thing. Do you have too many stat points without feats to spend them on?Let's start with a baseline stat array human fighter. Obviously you can't use the variant without feats so:Statline + Human = Str 15 + 1` = 16Dex 13 + 1` = 14Con 14 + 1` = 15Int 8 + 1` = 9Wis 12 + 1` = 13Chr 10 + 1` = 11Now lets level him up. Fighters get stat advances at 4,6,8,12,14,16 and 19.4th: +2 Str6th: +2 Str (Capped at 20)8th: +1 Con, +1 Wis12th: +2 Con14th: +2 Con (Capped at 20)16th: +2 Dex19th: +2 DexFinal Stat line at 19th level:Str 20Dex 18Con 20Int 9Wis 14Chr 11Hmm... Well, you're pretty much Captain America, but you haven't exactly run out of things to spend your stat points on. I think that moots my concern about what to do without feats.Although...Lets try it again with a Mountain Dwarf.Statline:Str 17Dex 13Con 16Int 8Wis 12Chr 104th: +1Str, +1 Dex6th +2 Str (Capped at 20)8th: +2 Con12th: +2 Con (Capped at 20)14th: +2 Dex16th: +2 Dex19th: +2 Dex (Capped at 20)Final StatsStr 20Dex 20Con 20Int 8Wis 12Chr 10He actually does run out his physical stats, at the price of being 1 point less perceptive. I have to say, that does kind of make me agree that the default Human racial benny sucks compared to the variant. Which, come to think of it is as old school as it gets. Play 5e in OSR mode without feats and no one will play humans, just like in the old days. Play in modern mode with feats and everyone will play humans just like in 3e. Mission of inclusivness acomplished! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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