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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7702084" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Why does everything have to get bigger in every edition that goes by? Do peoples imaginations get more and more crippled, or do developers fall into the temptation of trying to outdo the prior edition?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except the picture gives us no reason to think of the shields as hollow, and if you'll look at that 'plow' portion of the lower shield and indeed all of the shield except perhaps the top edge, it seems implied that the shield is much thicker than just 1". Given the width of the edges displayed in the picture, the shield could even conservatively be 4" thick. So that goes up to 18,000 pounds per shield. If the plow is as solid as it appears to be, that could be light. My estimate of 8000lbs now seems low.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My assumption was that they were intended to represent solid metal on the basis of that's how they were drawn and that they seemed to be glowing red hot. But yes, normally shields are made of a lighter material and then faced with metal. Without seeing a write up for the shields, it's hard to be absolutely certain what the designer was thinking or what they communicated to the artist, but if I had to guess absolutely no thought was put into it at all. The painting reeks of artwork that had to be finished under tight deadlines by an overworked artist.</p><p></p><p>A single 1,000lb shield is something I would put in the realm of believability for a giant of that size, granting first that giants of that scale are believable (and at 18', only just, and we are starting to need to make them out of something other than real world materials, which is fine being Fire Giants and all). It's not at all clear to me why you'd ever need twos shields.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7702084, member: 4937"] Why does everything have to get bigger in every edition that goes by? Do peoples imaginations get more and more crippled, or do developers fall into the temptation of trying to outdo the prior edition? Except the picture gives us no reason to think of the shields as hollow, and if you'll look at that 'plow' portion of the lower shield and indeed all of the shield except perhaps the top edge, it seems implied that the shield is much thicker than just 1". Given the width of the edges displayed in the picture, the shield could even conservatively be 4" thick. So that goes up to 18,000 pounds per shield. If the plow is as solid as it appears to be, that could be light. My estimate of 8000lbs now seems low. My assumption was that they were intended to represent solid metal on the basis of that's how they were drawn and that they seemed to be glowing red hot. But yes, normally shields are made of a lighter material and then faced with metal. Without seeing a write up for the shields, it's hard to be absolutely certain what the designer was thinking or what they communicated to the artist, but if I had to guess absolutely no thought was put into it at all. The painting reeks of artwork that had to be finished under tight deadlines by an overworked artist. A single 1,000lb shield is something I would put in the realm of believability for a giant of that size, granting first that giants of that scale are believable (and at 18', only just, and we are starting to need to make them out of something other than real world materials, which is fine being Fire Giants and all). It's not at all clear to me why you'd ever need twos shields. [/QUOTE]
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