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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9582875" data-attributes="member: 6796468">"Without Consent" is doing a lot of heavy lifting, here, to try and balance the mathematical functions of Fireball vs Chromatic Orb on a matter of politeness.Anyway. Even at 85%, that's still a 15% chance of completely wasting the spell slot on each roll. Which is a cumulative fail chance of around 62% over the course of 6 rolls. (0.85*0.85*0.85*0.85*0.85*0.85) = 37.7(These are your odds of not rolling a 3 or less across 6 rolls)You have a better than 50% chance of getting 3 hits out of it. After that your chances are under 50/50 of getting the next one to land in the sequence, and ending the sequence on a failure.Let's say, for the sake of argument, you manage to hit 3 targets with your 9d8 level 6 Chromatic Orb. That's 122 total, on average. 40.5 to each target.Let's say, for the sake of argument, you throw a 6th level Fireball and -everyone- succeeds their save. You still deal 116 damage, total across 6 targets. (((11*3.5)*6)*0.5). Even if -everyone- saves against the Fireball and it deals half damage to each of the 6 targets you still deal about the same damage as if the Chromatic Orb misses a coin toss by enemy 4. This is the FAIL STATE of the Fireball. This is the worst the Fireball can do. And this is the point where Chromatic Orb is at 50/50 efficacy.If half of them succeed their save, instead of all, you're instead looking at 173 damage total. 29.5 damage each. (This is the Fireball a5 50/50 efficacy)In the event that a given instance of Chromatic Orb hits the 4th target, which is an 85% chance on the roll itself and a cumulative 47% chance, it'll dish out 162 damage. 11 less than if 3/6 targets fail their Dex save.In the best case scenario for both, where every hit of Chromatic Orb lands and everyone fails their Dex save against Fireball, that 243 for Chromatic Orb and 231 for Fireball.Chromatic Orb comes out 12 points better.And that's not getting into situations where there are 7, 8, or 9 targets. In the BEST case scenario for Chromatic Orb to show it's damage output, where Fireball can't show off it's higher potential target count, it's a 12 point difference.And if you roll a 1, 2, or 3 on the first roll... it does nothing and your entire turn is wasted.I'd much prefer the Fireball on target counts of 4 or higher.</blockquote>

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