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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinematics" data-source="post: 9664773" data-attributes="member: 6932123">From the other thread on the Elemental Adept feat, here's some additional info:Probabilities:<table style='width: 100%'><tr><th style='width: 15%'>Level Cast</th><th>Dice</th><th style='width: 12%'>Max Bounce</th><th>Bounce %</th><th>Adept Bounce %</th></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>3</td><td>1</td><td>34.38%</td><td>41.41%</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>4</td><td>2</td><td>58.98%</td><td>67.77%</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>79.49%</td><td>86.82%</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>4</td><td>92.31%</td><td>96.43%</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>7</td><td>5</td><td>98.08%</td><td>99.52%</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>6</td><td>99.76%</td><td>100.00%</td></tr></table>And expected number of targets hit, excluding accuracy:<table style='width: 100%'><tr><th style='width: 15%'>Level Cast</th><th>Base Targets</th><th>Adept Targets</th><th>Gain</th></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>1.34</td><td>1.41</td><td>5%</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>1.94</td><td>2.14</td><td>10%</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>2.93</td><td>3.28</td><td>12%</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>4.29</td><td>4.66</td><td>9%</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>5.72</td><td>5.93</td><td>4%</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>6.95</td><td>7.00</td><td>1%</td></tr></table>Anyway, up til spell level 4, it looks like Elemental Adept is worth about +10% damage for Chromatic Orb just by virtue of hitting that many more targets, on average. The actual damage increase from changing 1s to 2s is just +2.8%.Aside: My calculations for using Empowered Spell on Chromatic Orb are not reliable, since the Sage Advice update which indicated that a single metamagic cannot be used twice on the same spell (even if there are multiple rolls involved), but that Empowered Spell could have its rerolls spread out among all of the spell's rolls.For example, Scorching Ray could have 1 die rerolled from each beam. So for Chromatic Orb, you could have the handful of rerolls spread out among all the targets hit, just using the necessary dice to get a bounce. But you don't get a full set of rerolls usable on each target.I'm not sure how I'd try to apply that, but I'll probably use a slight variant on what I had, with an assumption of 1 rerolled die per target to kind of average things out.</blockquote>

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