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Firefly bores me...

For me the show is very exciting and fresh...and I didn't like Buffy or Angel (I think I saw a total of 7 Angel episodes and 4 for Buffy...although Hush was one killer episode and, to me, couldn't be topped).

Sure there is a prostitute, but it's LEGAL as long as they are signed and trained to become one.

Sure there is an engineer, but its a WOMAN who knows everything there is to know about the ship...and if you get to see the episode that shows how she gets the job, you'll be laughing your butt off. :D

Sure we have a captain who acts tough but cares for his crew, but woas to anyone that attempts to mess with his crew, or his ship. Just ask the guy he kicked through the Engine. :) Great tv.

I love it. I dislike Fox...for now until SW3 comes out. ;)

Plus, he was able to take to different genres...Western and Sci-fi, blend them into one unit, and it came out very, very well. It's a shame he wasn't able to finish it, but I think that we will see a whole lot more of this crew in the future. :) If Serenity does well, all the actors are signed on to do two more movies, and I think we will see the tv show on tv again, someday. Those are my hopes, and dreams, and I don't care if anybody feels differently. *sniff* This show is cool!
 

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I've started watching the Firefly DVDs somewhat haphazardly (not alot of time to really sit down in front of the TV the last few months), and I rather like it. It's at least a different take on the old cliches, unlike the repetitive Stargate SG-1 (which I don't mind watching) or Star Trek shows (which I do mind watching). It's not Farscape, but it's better than most of the sf drek that gets put on tv.I'd like to see a considered, intelligent comparison of Farscape and Firefly by someone knowledgeable in sci-fi standards and norms. That would be interesting reading.

Cheers
Nell.
 

Lazybones said:
Ditto with the tech: I found the dichotomy between prosperous high-tech inner worlds and poor outer worlds believable (especially a few years after a major interstellar war), you didn't.

Yeah, I'm not sure what's unbelieveable there. Even on our single planet, we've got a large spread of tech available in different areas. Some places have electricity and VCRs and microwave ovens, and refrigeration in every home, and other places still plow dirt using draft animals. Why should it be different on a larger scale?
 
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CrusaderX said:
John Doe (didn't that follow Firefly on Friday nights?)

It did, and I think it was canceled a little more annoyingly than Firefly which at least didn't have a cliffhanger at the end of the last episode.

I noticed that of the four dramas Fox started that year, not one got a second season.
 

I find it funny that the people in this thread that don't like the show are the same ones I never agree with at all in any of their preferred TV/movie choices. At least I'm consistent. :)
 

Piratecat said:
I find it funny that the people in this thread that don't like the show are the same ones I never agree with at all in any of their preferred TV/movie choices. At least I'm consistent. :)


Strange, there's almost no one on here I consistently agree with. But I'm a fickle oddball so who knows.

For the record, I like Firefly but after watching it the second time through I thought it was only decent. Lost some of the magic for me for some reason. And I tried showing it to several of my friends and it bored them all to tears.
 

reapersaurus said:
Yep - very ovverated series, in my opinion.

Having watched the dvds (never having seen it on the small screen, due to no tv), I have to agree with this statement.

I mean, it was okay, but nothing much more than that. I really can't see what all the fuss is about.
 


JoeGKushner said:
But realistic technology? In some weird type of future setting that has pistols still as opposed to something else? No DNA scanning? I see that they're going with the outer planets to avoid having the problem real hard sci-fi brings to a setting, but it's just too boring. The technology only does something when it needs to. Otherwise it might as well not exist.
Well, it's not squeaky-clean Star Trek. Even Star Wars have a backward planet that uses "slugthrowers."

To me, it's a Traveller-type show.
 

JoeGKushner said:
Well, maybe the whole show is just too... simple for me.

Captain whose mean but loves his crew and will go out of his way to protect them? Check.

Except when he tries to kill one of his own crew for betraying them.

Companion in love with catpain and has heart of gold? Check.

Except when she decides to leave the ship because of her fellings towards Mal.

Mean mercenary who looks like he'll betray his crew but doesn't? Check.

Except when he does betray his own crew.

Rich boy put into poor situation and having to deal with it? Check.

This is sucha broad "cliche" that it is impossible to deal with it. I could use this same arguement for every Star Trek character too, y'know.

The pilot and his wife haven't really done anything yet in the first two disks. Do they ever?

There are 8 main characters. You do expect a lot from 6 episodes. In other words - yes they do get some excellent scene time.

Crazy character who can do things no one else can but is crazy so isn't a fully viable character? Check.

Except when her 'craziness' saves the entire crew - because she wasn't truly 'crazy' to begin with.

Relationships that take forever to resolve and actually do something? Check.

Holy crap you really do expect a lot from 6 episodes! Maybe it should have a had a Star Trek 'reset' button at the end of each show. And Babylon 5's romance between Delenn and Sheridan took nearly an entire season to develop - that must have irritated you, too!

Barfights in multiple episodes that show the captain is bitter about losing the war? Check.

I remember one bar fight that came as a direct result of Mal being on the losing side of the war. Perhaps there were more but I can't find the espidoes.

The characters are boring. It's like every cliche that could be had was put in here. Don't get me wrong. Some of the dialouge is fantastic. Some of the scenes are fantastic.

This is opinion. You have yours. I have mine.
But realistic technology? In some weird type of future setting that has pistols still as opposed to something else?

See this was one thing I really liked about the show. Despite the high tech spaceships and such they are still struggling with their own poverty and being on the fringe of society. In Ariel you get to see high tech weaponry - but it isn't as relable as a good old fashion slug thrower. Face it guns like we have today are probably going to be around in one form or another for many decades simply because there are A) a lot fo them and B) the fastest way to kill something is with a large dose of kinetic energy. The fastest and cheapest way to deliver that energy is with a bullet. Fast. Cheap. I realyl don't think everything sci-fi has to have impossible to explain ray guns (see Classic Traveller for another example of slug throwing weapons. Hell even Games Workshops' Space Marines use 'bolters' that use a caseless exploding bullet)

No DNA scanning? I see that they're going with the outer planets to avoid having the problem real hard sci-fi brings to a setting, but it's just too boring. The technology only does something when it needs to. Otherwise it might as well not exist.

Watch the episode Ariel. Firefly handles high tech just fine (and you get your DNA scanning too).
 

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