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Firefly bores me...

JoeGKushner said:
That's good to hear. I'm not saying that I'm completely disgusted with it, but man, the talk on En World was like, "It's better than Babylon 5 and all the Star Trek series put together!"

'better than.." those series isn't saying much at all. garbage.
 

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jasamcarl said:
'better than.." those series isn't saying much at all. garbage.

Manners! Remember the rules specifically forbid discusion of religion...

It's also rather more polite to say "I thought they were garbage", than "They are Garbage". The first is expressing an opinion, which is perfectly fine. The second is a blanket statement, which is much more insulting and in your face.
 
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jasamcarl said:
'better than.." those series isn't saying much at all. garbage.

Right. Now, would you care to discuss why you came to that conclusion?

You are certainly welcome to have your opinion. However, when given without any foundation or reasons, such flat statements are not constructive, and do nothing to add to the conversation.
 

I will have to admit, StarCops was really good. But I think it was good in that they put in as much to making the science right as they did to making the dramas interesting.

When I spoke of Hard SF I was refering to literature.

Aaron.
 

Umbran said:
Right. Now, would you care to discuss why you came to that conclusion?

You are certainly welcome to have your opinion. However, when given without any foundation or reasons, such flat statements are not constructive, and do nothing to add to the conversation.

I shouldn't have to provide a lucid explanation for every opinion, especially when there are others who are presumably reading this and take the same opinion for granted. For those sorts it is constructive, because it asks them, "Do you really want to make a descision about seeing Firefly based on the word of a guy who thought those two underwritten, flatly acted, stale, silly franchises represent some sort of higher standard for T.V. and cinema?"

Now, I haven't actually seen Firefly, and i generally thought Buffy was overrated, so I may actually agree with him. And the original points seem well considered and sincere. But that comparison threw me for a loop. :)
 

jasamcarl said:
I shouldn't have to provide a lucid explanation for every opinion, especially when there are others who are presumably reading this and take the same opinion for granted.

True....unless of course you actually want your opinions to be taken seriously.

JoeG followed up his initial post with an explanation of why he came to his conclusion. I may agree agree with his conclusion, but at least he showed how he arrived at it.
 
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Re: Mandarin and the horrible pronunciation.

I am not a native Mandarin speaker, but after living in Beijing for a while a blind chinese woman from Fujian thought I was a beijing native until I told her otherwise. Seriously. Meaning, she couldn't understand my Beijing gutter-talk. Heh.

Aaaanyways, what I'm trying to say is that my Mandarin was pretty good. But when I was hanging out with my American friends, we would sprinkle chinese into our conversation. "Sui bian", "Wu suo wei" and "Tao yan" were favorites of mine, but when I said them in the middle of an English sentence, it came out sounding something like what they say in Firefly... meaning the pronunciation was pretty bad.

So I thought the chinese cursing was wicked cool in that regard... because I could relate to using chinese sprinkled in my English and not have it sound like bona-fide chinese. Maybe that's the diff twixt seeing it as a native speaker and a second-language speaker.

Oh, and Jayne is absolutely my favorite character. Good bless Chaotic Evil Fighters! Woo! :)
 



Krieg said:
True....unless of course you actually want your opinions to be taken seriously.

JoeG followed up his initial post with an explanation of why he came to his conclusion. I may agree agree with his conclusion, but at least he showed how he arrived at it.

The thing is...it will be taken seriously by those who agree with me. Besides which my low opinion of said series wasn't even the point of my post. Some people are way too sensitive. I can see this type of response if I had stated the Earth is flat, but that Star Trek and Babylon 5 were bad series......hmmmmmmm...

That said, if i ever have too much time, i'll be sure to detail my argument against the shows, the honor of whose fans i besmirched so. Will that make you guys feel better? :)
 

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