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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desalus" data-source="post: 6389730" data-attributes="member: 6779178">I’m glad your experiences were so great. Take a look at this thread and other threads about ‘Greenest in Flames’ and you will find many had a different experience than you did.You say that you weren’t lenient when running this adventure, so did you run the adventure exactly as it is written in the book? Did you ever let your players rest? If so, did they miss out or fail one of the missions? Did you place some convenient healers in the keep or give the characters healing potions before the half-dragon, neither of which were written about (to my knowledge)? When your players snuck out of the keep using the old tunnel did you make sure to roll to see if they were spotted each time? When they snuck around town did they roll for every 100 feet they traveled to see if they were spotted?You’re expecting new players to appreciate this concept and to have enough experience to know when a spell is truly needed? When I’m new to a game the first thing I want to do is to see what my character is capable of. New players probably shouldn’t be thrown into an adventure where they can easily make unwise choices and suffer for it throughout the next several sessions.  There's better ways of easing them into understanding how to efficiently play their characters.If Pathfinder had an adventure as unbalanced as ‘Greenest in Flames’ I highly doubt the outcome would be any better; in fact it would probably be even worse (I don't recall anyone saying level 1 Pathfinder is easy). Also telling players that ‘if you didn’t like it then go play something else’ is a poor defense for bad adventure design. I’m not criticizing the system (I really like the system), I’m criticizing the ‘Greenest in Flames’ adventure and WOTC’s choice to make this the very first introduction into the game for a lot of new players via Encounters. I find it a very poor representation of what DnD has to offer players.</blockquote>

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