First take - Crown of the Kobold King

Carl S said:
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I like the idea that things don't always work out in puffy-shiny-sacchirine perfection, but the fact that basically all 5 of the kids end up messed up just got to me.

At first, this really hit me hard too, like "why did we rescue these kids anyway?!" But I reread the sidebar: It's just possible plot complications the DM can throw in, really you should just choose one, not use all of them or it becomes a "Jeezis Grampa"* module.

* A "Jeezis Grampa" module is named from the quote in the movie Princess Bride, where the grandson, learning the hero is dead and the villain lives says "Jeezis Grampa why'd you read me this thing?!

-DM Jeff
 

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Carl S said:
I really liked the adventure too, but with a few reservations. First, I just didn't care for most of the art. It certainly wasn't terrible or anything, it just didn't float my boat. There was one piece I really disliked though. The image of the undead dwarf with the kidnapped kid. I like the monster, the setting looks cool as well, but a ball-gag! Come on! The text doesn't even mention the kid being tied up, it seems like some artistic interpretation gone a bit too far.

Yeah, the art was our least favorite part of the module as well. The piece you mention, in particular, was bounced back to the artist to fix, but as you can see it never really happened. :\
 

takasi said:
Overall the adventure is good, and inspires me to start yet another campaign, but I wish Paizo would look into improving their adventure format now that they aren't confined to magazine space.

I'm sure we'll get better about this as we go along. This was the first module we worked on (yup, worked on it before and concurrently with D0) under the new world order, so we've obviously got a lot of adjusting and learning to do in the future. :)

takasi said:
Also, it would be nice if they published a campaign setting to complement these adventures, as I would be more likely to start a campaign using this setting than importing it into my own (or a third party setting).

DM_Jeff said:
From what I gather, unfortunately, I think their plan is to "slowly unfold" the campaign world to you in the series of articles accompanying the Pathfinder books as they come out. I mean, the module does give you enough to use in the area it's set in, but it does raise many questions we'll all have to wait for, like the ancient goblin war, the true nature of the new gods hinted at, and so on.

Maybe they'll release a gazeteer eventually or something. That would be neat.

Pathfinder will have bigger chunks of information about the world (not just Varisia, but also about the deities and whatnot).

That said, we do listen to and frequently take to heart what y'all say here and on our own messageboards. :)
 

JoshuaFrost said:
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Originally Posted by DM_Jeff
Maybe they'll release a gazeteer eventually or something. That would be neat.


Stay tuned. ;-)


Josh is being coy here, but since we have already announced it, I shall confirm it. We are releasing a 64 page full-color Campaign Gazetteer in January 08. The book will give a broad overview of one large chunk of our setting as well as serve as a handy reference for the gods, peoples, and kingdoms of our world.

I will be able to share more after GenCon.

Glad to hear you like Kobold King and I really wish you would have got a shot of that Paizo Cloud.. we've been working on that incantation for a while now.

Jason Bulmahn
GameMastery Brand Manager
 

Art with a kid tied up in a suggestive manner? I guess this one won't make it into my house and my fear that the mature nature of Paizo's adventures would make them something I don't want to use with my children has just increased.
 

It isn't really suggestive in any way. The kid is tied up like any prisoner in a D&D image, except there is a ball-gag in his mouth. If you have someone who hasn't seen Pulp Fiction around, or hasn't otherwise been exposed to bondage paraphernalia, it isn't offensive at all.

The rest of the art fits into a similar vein of D&D art. Nothing particularly racy.

edit: Zaukrie, check out D0 (Hollow's Last Hope) on the Paizo site. I am looking at using it with my neices and nephew and their friends (ages 7-10). Very fairy tale quality, but also very D&D at the same time.
 
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Oh, and DMJeff, I really like the "Jeezis Grandpa" term for this. There was no need to explain it, caught the reference right away, it was perfectly apt.
I'll have to adopt that one.
 

JoshuaFrost said:
Takasi, you'll want to call our customer service folks and notify them of this. A quick look at your account shows that your GameMastery Modules subscription is not set up on USPS Priority, but on USPS Standard 3-10 business days. You can call them at 425-289-0060 or email customer.service@paizo.com and get that changed.

Will do. There are some other oddities in the way the ongoing subscription comes up in my account, but I'll reserve those complaints for your billing department.
 

Zaukrie said:
Art with a kid tied up in a suggestive manner? I guess this one won't make it into my house and my fear that the mature nature of Paizo's adventures would make them something I don't want to use with my children has just increased.


Its not suggestive. The kid has a ball gag in his mouth. If you want to get realistic thats actually a very gentle gag. A real gag is painful, especially over the long term.

So, if you take the ball gag out of its sex affiliations context, the monster must have a streak of kindness somewhere in his darkened soul.
 

Good to know. I enjoy the Paizo stuff, and am looking forward to seeing this in the store...and, once I can decipher the worn out 3 digit code on the back of my credit card, I'll subscribe to Pathfinder...
 

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