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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5623321" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Errr.. Dandu would be the expert on this, but isn't a Arcane Thesis'd, Energy Subb'ed, Split, Maximized Scorching Ray a 6th level spell?</p><p></p><p>2 + -1 + 0 + 2 + 3 = 6</p><p></p><p>I think you are trying to take the Arcane Thesis adjustment once for each metamagic feat. While I can see why you might think that, it's not how it works.</p><p></p><p>And isn't the maximum damage of that spell 72 (3 rays doing 24 damage each), assuming that you hit with all three ranged touch attacks despite your +3 BAB and likely +7 or so total 'to hit' bonus?</p><p></p><p>If the touch AC of the target is a 12, and you have a +7 'to hit', then your expected damage with said 6th level spell is about 58. That's about 1/2 of 100, and is not significantly more damage than you'd expect a 13th level martial class to produce, although granted I'm sure neither the arcane build nor the martial build in these examples is remotely optimal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5623321, member: 4937"] Errr.. Dandu would be the expert on this, but isn't a Arcane Thesis'd, Energy Subb'ed, Split, Maximized Scorching Ray a 6th level spell? 2 + -1 + 0 + 2 + 3 = 6 I think you are trying to take the Arcane Thesis adjustment once for each metamagic feat. While I can see why you might think that, it's not how it works. And isn't the maximum damage of that spell 72 (3 rays doing 24 damage each), assuming that you hit with all three ranged touch attacks despite your +3 BAB and likely +7 or so total 'to hit' bonus? If the touch AC of the target is a 12, and you have a +7 'to hit', then your expected damage with said 6th level spell is about 58. That's about 1/2 of 100, and is not significantly more damage than you'd expect a 13th level martial class to produce, although granted I'm sure neither the arcane build nor the martial build in these examples is remotely optimal. [/QUOTE]
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