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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9207480" data-attributes="member: 93670">It's extremely relevant when you skip over the point in their advancement that contradicts both your earlier statement about how many spells they get as well as meeting the crawford quote about hitting the 5th level version of a spell over &amp; over &amp; over again to a T then try to block any discussion of that point as a merely implied thing unworthy of discussion.The 2014 warlock (and monk)is also broken as heck late tier2 early tier3 on if they are able to force too many short rests, you might look back at the points you kept trying to avoid &amp; dismiss for details on that.&nbsp; Referencing what they could do in the 2014 ruleset doesn't change thatNo not really.&nbsp; Take a level 11 warlock It has three 5th level slots &amp; gets up to three more every short rest.&nbsp; Conveniently they can usually burn off at least one or two.&nbsp; On top of that they also have a bunch of at will &amp; always on stuff from invocations like at will agonizing repelling blast for another 4th or 5th level spell equivalent using the DMG284 guidelines.That holds true if monk could not get enough rests.&nbsp; It's very much not true if they have too many rests after they had/have a larger enough pool to at will their ki/discipline pool while getting too many rests</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9207480, member: 93670"] It's [I]extremely[/I] relevant when you skip over the point in their advancement that contradicts both your earlier statement about how many spells they get as well as meeting the crawford quote about hitting the 5th level version of a spell over & over & over again to a T then try to block any discussion of that point as a merely implied thing unworthy of discussion. The 2014 warlock (and monk)is [B]also[/B] broken as heck late tier2 early tier3 on if they are able to force too many short rests, you might look back at the points you kept trying to avoid & dismiss for details on that. Referencing what they could do in the 2014 ruleset doesn't change that No not really. Take a level 11 warlock It has three 5th level slots & gets up to three more [I]every[/I] short rest. Conveniently they can usually burn off at least one or two. On top of that they also have a bunch of at will & always on stuff from invocations like at will agonizing repelling blast for another 4th or 5th level spell equivalent using the DMG284 guidelines. That holds true [I]if[/I] monk could not get enough rests. It's very much [I]not[/I] true if they have too many rests after they had/have a larger enough pool to at will their ki/discipline pool while getting too many rests [/QUOTE]

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