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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6802298" data-attributes="member: 2067">Except that it would mean picking up two scimitars would be a &quot;waste&quot; of a class feature, so it'd sort of pigeonhole you into using one weapon. Personally, not so interested in comparing it vs. the BM numbers as I am in comparing it to expected party damage vs. monsters. My metric would be: does a party with a Champion in it take more rounds to kill a monster group than a party with a BM in it? I don't know that that's the case (pretty sure ANY fighter hits the threshold there), and if it's not, it looks like the Champion is doing its job just fine - being a reliable option for someone who wants a simple fighter. Folks who don't want a simple fighter aren't happy with it, and that's OK, as long as folks who do want a simple fighter are happy with it. Aside from that, comparing it to the BM damage is like comparing, say, a bard and a cleric in terms of healing. It doesn't really matter who does more, what matters is if both can do enough. After a certain point, it's all just an ego thing.It's not really a &quot;whose is bigger?&quot; pissing contest, IMO. After a certain point, it doesn't matter. Do Champions reach that point? Seems like they might, even if they &quot;lag behind&quot; the BM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6802298, member: 2067"] Except that it would mean picking up two scimitars would be a "waste" of a class feature, so it'd sort of pigeonhole you into using one weapon. Personally, not so interested in comparing it vs. the BM numbers as I am in comparing it to expected party damage vs. monsters. My metric would be: does a party with a Champion in it take more rounds to kill a monster group than a party with a BM in it? I don't know that that's the case (pretty sure ANY fighter hits the threshold there), and if it's not, it looks like the Champion is doing its job just fine - being a reliable option for someone who wants a simple fighter. Folks who don't want a simple fighter aren't happy with it, and that's OK, as long as folks who do want a simple fighter are happy with it. Aside from that, comparing it to the BM damage is like comparing, say, a bard and a cleric in terms of healing. It doesn't really matter who does [I]more[/I], what matters is if both can do [I]enough[/I]. After a certain point, it's all just an ego thing. It's not really a "whose is bigger?" pissing contest, IMO. After a certain point, it doesn't matter. Do Champions reach that point? Seems like they might, even if they "lag behind" the BM. [/QUOTE]

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