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<blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6804408" data-attributes="member: 6701872">I know that it isn't likely to actually happen given the way that people are, but I think this whole thing where we are basically in a state of treating &quot;no one plays high level&quot; being assumed as being true in 5th edition even though the reasons why &quot;no one plays high level&quot; has been true in other editions are not actually still true (or at least significantly less true than they used to be).It's a new edition - it'd be great if people actually judged it on its own merits rather than limiting themselves to 12th level and below (or whatever, that's just one example) because 13th+ didn't work for them in whatever other edition.So yeah, it's annoying to have people assuming every campaign will make it to 20th level because the game is designed so that you can actually play to, and beyond, 20th level - but it's also annoying to have people assuming that the goal of stretching out the older-edition &quot;sweet spot&quot; feel to a much broader point (i.e. 5th-20th instead of 5th-12th) has completely failed when the game has barely been out long enough for a significant number of folks to have actually given a try to playing all the way through even once. The only difference is whether the person is assuming the same thing as the designers (that the game is playable all the way through) or not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AaronOfBarbaria, post: 6804408, member: 6701872"] I know that it isn't likely to actually happen given the way that people are, but I think this whole thing where we are basically in a state of treating "no one plays high level" being assumed as being true [I]in 5th edition[/I] even though the reasons why "no one plays high level" has been true [I]in other editions[/I] are not actually still true (or at least significantly less true than they used to be). It's a new edition - it'd be great if people actually judged it on its own merits rather than limiting themselves to 12th level and below (or whatever, that's just one example) because 13th+ didn't work for them in whatever other edition. So yeah, it's annoying to have people assuming every campaign will make it to 20th level because the game is designed so that you can actually play to, and beyond, 20th level - but it's also annoying to have people assuming that the goal of stretching out the older-edition "sweet spot" feel to a much broader point (i.e. 5th-20th instead of 5th-12th) has completely failed when the game has barely been out long enough for a significant number of folks to have actually given a try to playing all the way through even once. The only difference is whether the person is assuming the same thing as the designers (that the game is playable all the way through) or not. [/QUOTE]

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