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<blockquote data-quote="Sonofapreacherman" data-source="post: 1023804" data-attributes="member: 2315"><p>And this is different from taking two levels of barbarian how? Oh yeah, instead of getting +1 AC and +1 Reflex saves vs traps, I get a rage ability and +10 to my movement. Hm, tough call. The point here is that once you invest 2 levels into a character (strictly for the purposes of power gaming), you have invested 2 levels into a character. Two levels is two levels. Nothing to shake a stick at. Advancement slows down as you climb up that level ladder. Choose your initial *fast* levels wisely or recklessly cherry pick all you like. Your call.</p><p></p><p>Which explains all those in-class ranks of Spot and Sense Motive that the barbarian will be taking.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>People who commit crimes as a way of life are the same ones who can spot them a mile away, long before anybody else does. I'll let you wrestle with that metaphor on your own time.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Did I say anything about the monk? No? I didn't think so either. Kind of arguing with your own shadow here, aren't you?</p><p></p><p>You see? We do agree! Now all you gotta do is break that WotC-speaks-the-gospel-truth perception, and you'll do just fine.</p><p></p><p>I personally don't see how a character, whose primary rage ability prevents them from using abilities that require patience or concentration, is going to be more aware of danger than a rogue.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Indeed. Probably all those people who aren't busy cherry picking character classes for the sake of power gaming.</p><p></p><p>Many characters do. Dead levels suck. Call it my personal bias, but I don't think I'm alone on that one.</p><p></p><p>Could have fooled me.</p><p></p><p>And a good thing too. I was going for balanced, not heavenly. Call me a heathen, but I try not confuse the two.</p><p></p><p>Natch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sonofapreacherman, post: 1023804, member: 2315"] And this is different from taking two levels of barbarian how? Oh yeah, instead of getting +1 AC and +1 Reflex saves vs traps, I get a rage ability and +10 to my movement. Hm, tough call. The point here is that once you invest 2 levels into a character (strictly for the purposes of power gaming), you have invested 2 levels into a character. Two levels is two levels. Nothing to shake a stick at. Advancement slows down as you climb up that level ladder. Choose your initial *fast* levels wisely or recklessly cherry pick all you like. Your call. Which explains all those in-class ranks of Spot and Sense Motive that the barbarian will be taking. :rolleyes: People who commit crimes as a way of life are the same ones who can spot them a mile away, long before anybody else does. I'll let you wrestle with that metaphor on your own time. :) Did I say anything about the monk? No? I didn't think so either. Kind of arguing with your own shadow here, aren't you? You see? We do agree! Now all you gotta do is break that WotC-speaks-the-gospel-truth perception, and you'll do just fine. I personally don't see how a character, whose primary rage ability prevents them from using abilities that require patience or concentration, is going to be more aware of danger than a rogue. ;) Indeed. Probably all those people who aren't busy cherry picking character classes for the sake of power gaming. Many characters do. Dead levels suck. Call it my personal bias, but I don't think I'm alone on that one. Could have fooled me. And a good thing too. I was going for balanced, not heavenly. Call me a heathen, but I try not confuse the two. Natch. [/QUOTE]
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