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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1024408" data-attributes="member: 4134">Re: Re: Re: Fixing the newly broken rogue class (thanks to Andy and 3.5)Sneak attack alone makes the rogue quite powerful. Add skill points (no other class has as many as him), evasion and the special abilities he gets later, and he's a really nice class. The fact that he gets uncanny dodge a little later (which was done so there are no empty levels) doesn't change that at all.I disagree. Not every NPC would fear rogues most. Others might prefer to protect themselves from other classes, which they fear more. Wizards and clerics come to mind.And from a metagame view, don't you think nerfing the rogue in every big battle is a little harsh? Plus, I can nerf the other classes, too if I want (get him out of reach to nerf melee fighters, give him death ward, freedom and mind blank to nerf spellcasters....), but directing all my efforts against one class doesn't exactly create a fair environment to compare classes, does it?The single gap on level 20 is regrettable, but he still gets his usual benefits, which aren't to be spit at. You might have opportunist and improved evasion, but they won't help you if your attack or reflex bonus is crappy.I tried to get a high-level rogue several times, but chance was against me: My drow rogue hat a series of bad rolls which killed him: First, I failed my search check for the trap. Then the DM rolled well with SR, after which my reflex save was bad again. Then, he had an exceptionally well damage roll. End effect: My rogue was at exactly -10, and that was in Ravenloft, with no cleric capable or raising within one or two domains. He was around level 5Then, I played a human (scorpion) ninja from Rokugan, but the party returned home (which for them, was the forgotten realms), and I had to create another character. He was around 11 then.After that, I played a clericIn another gaming group (all-evil), I play a fey'ri rogue, but the DM doesn't a good job at all and I think about leaving (he's rog7 now)</blockquote>

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