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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 1025233" data-attributes="member: 1134">not unless they're a 1/2 orc.  Basically my point is with finesse the only difference is BAB where as for the monk its usually BAB and stats, and at level 10 the spread is only a 3 point difference or 15%.  If your a 1/2 ling you get a +2 to hit thanks to your dex boost and only the 1/2 orc gives the same for a fighter type, and being small you get another +1 to hit droping the miss range even more. rogues really just don't miss that much more than fighters do.  In 3.5 a fighter can get the greater weapon focus feat to spread the advantage a bit more again.  But the rogue will likely take weapon focus short sword, so its only  a 5% boost over the rogue and the rogue will be usign a combat effecitve style in 3.5 with the imporved two weapon chain.  I figure a combat optimized pure rogue goes something like this.level 1two weapon stylelevel 3 weapon finesselevel 6 weapon focusshort swordlevel 9improved 2 weaponlevel 15greater two weapon.At level 10 they will be BAB 7/2two weaponing it for 5/5/0/0weapon focusgets that to6/6/1/1weapon finessegets that to a aditional += t0 that of the fighters unless we're a 1/2ling or elf and then its an additioanl +1over the non 1/2 orcs fighter stat boost.If 1/2 ling then we have another +1 so then each of the 1st two swings is at -15% but there are two of them, and then another 2 at again 15% below the fighters next attack.  If we're talking level 11 well the fighter gets 3 attacks to the rogues 4, but that final fighters attack is actually lower than the rogues last two shots in chance to hit since they both get a bab here and hey the rogue gets another 1d6 on that sneak attack.Personally I think the 1/2ling with his 15% less chance to hit with 2 swings and a nice solid bonus 5d6 per hit over the fighter and his +to damage from str & specialization etc will come dang close in damage output more often than the fighters will like.</blockquote>

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