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Fixing the newly broken rogue class (thanks to Andy and 3.5)
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<blockquote data-quote="Sonofapreacherman" data-source="post: 1025389" data-attributes="member: 2315"><p>Darkalone.</p><p></p><p>I never said skills are useless. I said characters can get by with very few.</p><p></p><p>The same can be said for *any* adventuring character. But among those characters, rogues should be the one character class most attuned to such dangers, as they are the ones who regularly scout ahead into it.</p><p></p><p>Bully for them. But a fencer does not automatically a rogue make.</p><p></p><p>The principle is the same. I shouldn't have to spell out as much.</p><p></p><p>Who is talking about fighters? Not me. This is a rogue thread.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>Lost you there. The barbarian was never a part of the package. Go back and check if you like. While the character is suboptimal from a BAB standpoint, they possess a host of abilities and are exceedingly resourceful… unrealistically so.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>Why bother when you pick it up in 2 levels with the monk. The point I make about cherry picking levels is simply that a bad DM makes it easy. A good DM makes it realistically difficult. The rules into and of themselves don't prevent cherry picking powergaming.</p><p></p><p>It can even be argured that cherrypicking is a non-existent problem. That 1 or 2 levels of a character are going to follow you throughout yoru adventuring career, with XP penalties to boot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sonofapreacherman, post: 1025389, member: 2315"] Darkalone. I never said skills are useless. I said characters can get by with very few. The same can be said for *any* adventuring character. But among those characters, rogues should be the one character class most attuned to such dangers, as they are the ones who regularly scout ahead into it. Bully for them. But a fencer does not automatically a rogue make. The principle is the same. I shouldn't have to spell out as much. Who is talking about fighters? Not me. This is a rogue thread. ----- Lost you there. The barbarian was never a part of the package. Go back and check if you like. While the character is suboptimal from a BAB standpoint, they possess a host of abilities and are exceedingly resourceful… unrealistically so. ----- Why bother when you pick it up in 2 levels with the monk. The point I make about cherry picking levels is simply that a bad DM makes it easy. A good DM makes it realistically difficult. The rules into and of themselves don't prevent cherry picking powergaming. It can even be argured that cherrypicking is a non-existent problem. That 1 or 2 levels of a character are going to follow you throughout yoru adventuring career, with XP penalties to boot. [/QUOTE]
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