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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1174755" data-attributes="member: 259"><p><strong>Tellerve</strong>, how does a lance tear through the goblin in front of you, and THEN tear through the goblin behind you?</p><p> </p><p>Even with a sword-blow, you're not going to be able to convert the forward momentum of your charge into an attack on someone behind you, unless you've got a special dispensation from Sir Isaac Newton.</p><p> </p><p>You say that the problem is folks not seeing combat cinematically. I agree, but I think the folks who aren't visualizing it properly are the ones disagreeing with me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p><p> </p><p>It's perfectly fine to charge someone, kill them, and attack the person behind you with a continuation of your swing. You just no longer have the charge's momentum behind you, and therefore you don't attack the person behind you as hard. Nothing prevents you from trying it, if you have the feat.</p><p> </p><p>Artoomis, when you talk about only applying bonuses if there's no compelling reason NOT to apply them, you're doing exactly what I think we don't want to do. You're talking about adding a new descriptor onto every single bonus: "Applies on a cleave?" The far simpler alternative is to rule that the "same attack bonus" refers to the attack bonus before modifiers are applied.</p><p> </p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 1174755, member: 259"] [b]Tellerve[/b], how does a lance tear through the goblin in front of you, and THEN tear through the goblin behind you? Even with a sword-blow, you're not going to be able to convert the forward momentum of your charge into an attack on someone behind you, unless you've got a special dispensation from Sir Isaac Newton. You say that the problem is folks not seeing combat cinematically. I agree, but I think the folks who aren't visualizing it properly are the ones disagreeing with me :). It's perfectly fine to charge someone, kill them, and attack the person behind you with a continuation of your swing. You just no longer have the charge's momentum behind you, and therefore you don't attack the person behind you as hard. Nothing prevents you from trying it, if you have the feat. Artoomis, when you talk about only applying bonuses if there's no compelling reason NOT to apply them, you're doing exactly what I think we don't want to do. You're talking about adding a new descriptor onto every single bonus: "Applies on a cleave?" The far simpler alternative is to rule that the "same attack bonus" refers to the attack bonus before modifiers are applied. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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