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<blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 8562059" data-attributes="member: 90374">Freedom is good because it allows people autonomy, which is the desired value. Doesn't mean the same thing as the chaotic freedom ideal. Freedom in this case is the desired out come of the lawful structure. It's one possible interpretation of &quot;I need power to ensure peace&quot;. Wielding power to ensure things sounds lawful evil. It's lawful because its a state you want to maintain, its evil because you want to wield power to ensure it. It doesn't have to be LE, its not the only answer. It could certainly be lawful neutral because you wield the power only when necessary to ensure the peace. You need a more context than a simple statement. &nbsp;Im going to try and tip toe the politics line very carefully and talk in general and not use your specific example directly. Do you believe the organization is evil because of the consequences of its outcomes? Particular actions are good or evil, but ultimately the ideals and intentions rule the alignment. For example, if you have power of economy being used to force decisions on someone else, but the intention is to force a ceasefire or avoid a war, its at the very least a neutral application. If war breaks out because of it, that's despite intentions of the actions which were to stop it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="payn, post: 8562059, member: 90374"] Freedom is good because it allows people autonomy, which is the desired value. Doesn't mean the same thing as the chaotic freedom ideal. Freedom in this case is the desired out come of the lawful structure. It's one possible interpretation of "I need power to ensure peace". Wielding power to ensure things sounds lawful evil. It's lawful because its a state you want to maintain, its evil because you want to wield power to ensure it. It doesn't have to be LE, its not the only answer. It could certainly be lawful neutral because you wield the power only when necessary to ensure the peace. You need a more context than a simple statement. Im going to try and tip toe the politics line very carefully and talk in general and not use your specific example directly. Do you believe the organization is evil because of the consequences of its outcomes? Particular actions are good or evil, but ultimately the ideals and intentions rule the alignment. For example, if you have power of economy being used to force decisions on someone else, but the intention is to force a ceasefire or avoid a war, its at the very least a neutral application. If war breaks out because of it, that's despite intentions of the actions which were to stop it. [/QUOTE]

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