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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8564484" data-attributes="member: 63508">What I am saying is &quot;group&quot; and &quot;other people&quot; are more of less the same. The key point is the Lawful person accepts a ruleset, code, of law system that the Lawful person won't or can't change to meet their desires or needs.Many personal codes are not devised ultimately by the person and are often heavily affected by outside groups, other people, or biological constraints.Chaotic is more &quot;I leave all my options open. I'm not letting others lock options away from me &quot;Robin Hood is chaotic not because he breaks the law but because he is willing to break the law with little care to do Good. He doesn't let the law bind him.Batman is Lawful because while he is a vigilante, he twists and binds himself with a code of conduct to not become the monsters he stalks. If it were purely up to him and there were no consequences, he'd just shoot and kill people.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8564484, member: 63508"] What I am saying is "group" and "other people" are more of less the same. The key point is the Lawful person accepts a ruleset, code, of law system that the Lawful person won't or can't change to meet their desires or needs. Many personal codes are not devised ultimately by the person and are often heavily affected by outside groups, other people, or biological constraints. Chaotic is more "I leave all my options open. I'm not letting others lock options away from me " Robin Hood is chaotic not because he breaks the law but because he is willing to break the law with little care to do Good. He doesn't let the law bind him. Batman is Lawful because while he is a vigilante, he twists and binds himself with a code of conduct to not become the monsters he stalks. If it were purely up to him and there were no consequences, he'd just shoot and kill people. [/QUOTE]

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