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<blockquote data-quote="Amrûnril" data-source="post: 8566178" data-attributes="member: 6841183">Vader strikes me as a character with strong tendencies in both directions on the Law-Chaos axis. All the chaotic traits you point out are are definitely there. At the same time, though I think he really does believe his argument to Luke that their combined strength could &quot;end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy&quot;. If we consider the prequels, we also see that he starts with a lot of faith in institutions (a Jedi On Tatooine must be there to free the slaves). And though he's become somewhat disillusioned by episodes 2 and 3, he doesn't see &quot;the system&quot; not working as a limitation of institutions in general, but rather as evidence for the need of a better structure with &quot;someone wise&quot; to make people agree.As for Tarkin, I'll note that he never actually promises to spare Alderaan if Leia cooperates.&nbsp; But even putting aside semantic considerations, seeing lies by the authorities to &quot;terrorists&quot; as a justified tactic but lies by &quot;terrorists&quot; to said authorities as cause for outrage strikes me as entirely consistent with a lawful evil worldview.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Amrûnril, post: 8566178, member: 6841183"] Vader strikes me as a character with strong tendencies in both directions on the Law-Chaos axis. All the chaotic traits you point out are are definitely there. At the same time, though I think he really does believe his argument to Luke that their combined strength could "end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy". If we consider the prequels, we also see that he starts with a lot of faith in institutions (a Jedi On Tatooine [I]must [/I]be there to free the slaves). And though he's become somewhat disillusioned by episodes 2 and 3, he doesn't see "the system" not working as a limitation of institutions in general, but rather as evidence for the need of a better structure with "someone wise" to make people agree. As for Tarkin, I'll note that he never actually promises to spare Alderaan if Leia cooperates. But even putting aside semantic considerations, seeing lies by the authorities to "terrorists" as a justified tactic but lies by "terrorists" to said authorities as cause for outrage strikes me as entirely consistent with a lawful evil worldview. [/QUOTE]

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