Forcibly Removing Armour

[lord_banus]

I am trying to make some goblins a bit more nasty for some players of mine by using mass grappling. The problem is that I want to have the goblins remove the armour of the full plated paladin while he's pinned. Has anyone come across any rules for this kind of action. I figured that it is probably some sort of roll to damage the straps keeping the armour on (perhaps d20 + dex + BAB vs pinned AC) and taking 5 rounds (as per don hastily but for taking off)

Anyone have any thoughts?

 

[rtricher]

You want the goblins to take his armour off and then what let him go so he can keep fighting or you want them to steal it???

Just knock him out, have your Gobos deal subdual damage and then take five minutes to take it all off. Or I guess you could always try to bash through it, though goblins are likely to remove some limbs, and otherwise I don't really think it suits they're style to remove a guy's armour. Unless the armour is magical it should have a break DC, I think Sunder is the feat required to break weapons and stuff might be a good place to start.

 

[Cloudgatherer]

How about the rules for doing damage to an object? Just break the armor right off of him...

 

[Archer]

Under rules for breaking an object the goblins would never break the armor in a million years.

The goblins will have a hard time grappling the paladin even with 8 of them. Is the paladin by himself? Is there no ally to stand next to him?

 

[lord_banus]

One goblin with 7 helpers gets a +14 in a grapple which when you think about it is fairly reasonable. Its a good way to shake the confidence of mid level characters who think goblins can't touch them.

I figured that a bunch of goblins who can't get penetrate full plate might try to bring the guy down with force of numbers and tear the armour of him.

Seems a reasonable reaction to me.

 

[Coredump]

Taking the armour off would be a royal pain in the arse. Much easier to just stab him with daggers, and remove it from his corpse. Trying to fiddle with buckles while he is struggling would be near impossible; and trying to cut them would also be pretty darn difficult. *definitely* harder than just the Pinned AC.

Just shove a dagger through his eyeslot and be done with it.

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[lord_banus]

Well that opens the question about how does one bypass armour in a grappled situation, or any called shot for that matter..