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<blockquote data-quote="tarchon" data-source="post: 470985" data-attributes="member: 5990">Swahilishade/shadow = &lt;i&gt;uvuli&lt;/i&gt;, (class 11) apparently in the general sense shade/shadow = &lt;i&gt;kivuli&lt;/i&gt;, (class 7) specifically a ghost as in many other languages, it might also refer to a cast shadow.&nbsp; The contrast in noun classes suggests that &lt;i&gt;uvuli&lt;/i&gt; is probably what we call shade while &lt;i&gt;kivuli&lt;/i&gt; is what we call a shadow, but the dictionary I'm using is unclear about it. dark = &lt;i&gt;-ausi/-eusi&lt;/i&gt;&nbsp; What goes before the - depends on what it modifies, e.g. &lt;i&gt;kivuli chausi&lt;/i&gt;, dark shadow.Mongolian (standard Halka)shadow = &lt;i&gt;sïïder&lt;/i&gt;dark = &lt;i&gt;baraan, bïrenhii, har&lt;/i&gt;Both of the on-line dictionaries roughly agree, but I have no idea about the particular connotations, except that &lt;i&gt;har&lt;/i&gt; is basically the color black (related to Turkish &lt;i&gt;kara&lt;/i&gt; and perhaps Japanese &lt;i&gt;kuroi&lt;/i&gt;).&nbsp; They each give several other options, so I'm guessing that Mongolian doesn't have a closely corresponding semantic category.&nbsp; Mongolian terms for visual appearance generally don't correspond well to Western concepts, I've found.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tarchon, post: 470985, member: 5990"] Swahili shade/shadow = uvuli, (class 11) apparently in the general sense shade/shadow = kivuli, (class 7) specifically a ghost as in many other languages, it might also refer to a cast shadow. The contrast in noun classes suggests that uvuli is probably what we call shade while kivuli is what we call a shadow, but the dictionary I'm using is unclear about it. dark = -ausi/-eusi What goes before the - depends on what it modifies, e.g. kivuli chausi, dark shadow. Mongolian (standard Halka) shadow = sïïder dark = baraan, bïrenhii, har Both of the on-line dictionaries roughly agree, but I have no idea about the particular connotations, except that har is basically the color black (related to Turkish kara and perhaps Japanese kuroi). They each give several other options, so I'm guessing that Mongolian doesn't have a closely corresponding semantic category. Mongolian terms for visual appearance generally don't correspond well to Western concepts, I've found. [/QUOTE]

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