Forest Gnomes

[Dax Doomslayer]

Hi Folks,

I was just wondering if there are any sources converting the 2E version of the Forest Gnome into the 3E version. The monster manual indicates that they get the gnome abilities plus the following:

Pass Without Trace (as spell)
+1 to hit Kobolds; Goblinoids; Orc and Reptillion Humanoids
+4 to Hide (+8 in wooded area)

What sort of ECL modifier (if any) do you think this should add?


Thanks for the help I appreciate it!!

 

[Jolly Giant]

Tough one...

Maybe a +1 ECL adjustment? Maybe not? Pass Without Trace is good, of course, as is the Hide-bonus. That first +4 bonus, is that the standard size-modifier or a racial bonus (havn't got my books here...) ? If it's on top of the size bonus, it really starts to amount to something... In that case, I'd go for +1 level.

Of course, with forest gnomes being so shy and seclusive they aren't really that well suited as PCs, but that's another story...

 

[-Ekimus-]

The forest gnome race is in the Kingdoms of Kalamar book. They're pretty good, and at a no +ECL.

 

[Krug]

Druids as favored class I bet. I think there's another take on them in the Dragon issue that featured Gnomes, probably the worst-selling issue of all-time.

 

[Celtavian]

Re

We played them with no ECL. I played a Forest gnome wizard that was only 2 feet tall. He was a very entertaining and amusing character.

 

[Maldur]

I think they were in a dragon mag.

But I cant remember when? When I get home Ill check.

 

[Soldarin]

The forest gnome is in the MM (under the gnome; you have to read carefully, it's tucked away). That one would be ECL +1.

 

[Dax Doomslayer]

Thanks for the input folks. So what people are saying is that a Forest Gnome is a +1 ECL adjustment? Once again, I appreciate the help.

 

[Dr. NRG]

What about lawn gnomes?
+10 natural AC (made of concrete).
move 0 (made of concrete)
inanimate (made of concrete)
+4 charisma (sheer cutesiness)
innate ability to charm granmothers

What ECL?

NRG

 

[alsih2o]

What about lawn gnomes?
+10 natural AC (made of concrete).
move 0 (made of concrete)
inanimate (made of concrete)
+4 charisma (sheer cutesiness)
innate ability to charm granmothers

what about little redhatted dr. nrg gnomes? do you have stats for them?