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<blockquote data-quote="Shazman" data-source="post: 5160290" data-attributes="member: 13509"><p>I'd have to double check my FRCS, but I'm petty sure he wasn't near that high level.&nbsp; I do know he had about five levels of other classes, which are pretty useless when you are a high level wizard.&nbsp; All they do is bring your caster level down which is your only significant source of power.&nbsp; I think he got a CR bump from his Chosen of Mystra template, which, I have to admit, is a pretty cheesy template.&nbsp; I'll grant you that Elminster is kind of munchinky and cheesy, but he's pretty much Ed Greenwood's alter ego.&nbsp; He created the setting, so I guess he has a right to throw in his cheesy DMPC, even if it is somewhat distasteful to most gamers.&nbsp; I've seen some things in FR that, while they aren't big movers and shakers, could eat Elminster for breakfast if they chose to.&nbsp; He's kind of munchinky, but even he has had to be saved by others occasionally in some of the novels or short stories.&nbsp; To sum up this whole discussion, if a player said, &quot;Why should we try to handle this problem? Why doesn't Elminster do it?&quot; My response would be, &quot;Elminster isn't here, but you are.&quot;&nbsp; Make the Realms your own.&nbsp; The high level NPC's can only interfere with your campaign if you decide to let them.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Shazman, post: 5160290, member: 13509"] I'd have to double check my FRCS, but I'm petty sure he wasn't near that high level. I do know he had about five levels of other classes, which are pretty useless when you are a high level wizard. All they do is bring your caster level down which is your only significant source of power. I think he got a CR bump from his Chosen of Mystra template, which, I have to admit, is a pretty cheesy template. I'll grant you that Elminster is kind of munchinky and cheesy, but he's pretty much Ed Greenwood's alter ego. He created the setting, so I guess he has a right to throw in his cheesy DMPC, even if it is somewhat distasteful to most gamers. I've seen some things in FR that, while they aren't big movers and shakers, could eat Elminster for breakfast if they chose to. He's kind of munchinky, but even he has had to be saved by others occasionally in some of the novels or short stories. To sum up this whole discussion, if a player said, "Why should we try to handle this problem? Why doesn't Elminster do it?" My response would be, "Elminster isn't here, but you are." Make the Realms your own. The high level NPC's can only interfere with your campaign if you decide to let them. [/QUOTE]

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