D&D General Forgotten Realms Books Tables of Contents

The Table of Contents for both Heroes of Faerun and Adventures in Faerun.

Picked the books up this morning and love what I’ve seen so far. I’ll answer whatever questions I can here.

 

[Parmandur]

"Many dragonborn died for their kingdom and their sultana. In recognition of their loyalty and strength, Songal elevated some dragonborn to positions of power in Calimshan. Other dragonborn have since gravitated to genie strongholds, where they combine their innate powers with elemental magic."

Supposedly, this is in the book.

Seems, dragonborn abandoned their actual kingdom (Tymanther) to die in some foreign land for some maunthreki (human) ruler they didn't knew before, and now flock to genies' strongholds.

EDIT:

Wait... Female sultana with dragonborn guards.... WotC was copying Midgard's dragon empire, lol!

The Sultana is not a Genie...?

And who said these Dragonborn were from Tymanther specifically? Tymanther is a Dragonborn space, but it was never even all of the Abseir Dragonborn. Dragonborn are just all over the place.

 

[pedr]

How does this Dragonborn lore fit with Ashes of the Tyrant by Erin M Evans? There’d been very little discussion of post-Sundering Dragonborn culture and organisation until then, and it set up some interesting elements, I seem to recall.

 

[Corinnguard]

Here is the Dragonborn entry to answer some questions.

Thanks for the additional Dragonborn lore in the new book.

How does this Dragonborn lore fit with Ashes of the Tyrant by Erin M Evans? There’d been very little discussion of post-Sundering Dragonborn culture and organisation until then, and it set up some interesting elements, I seem to recall.

I went to the Forgotten Realms wiki to check out its' entry on the Second Sundering and the First Tymanther-Unther War. The lore mentioned in both FR Wiki entries appears (to me) to be at odds with the lore @MonsterEnvy mentioned earlier in this thread.

Second Sundering

The Second Sundering, also known as the Sundering of Toril and Abeir,[3] was a great catastrophic event in the history of the worlds of Abeir and Toril, that took place during the decade of the 1480s DR.[4] When Ao the Overgod destroyed the Tablets of Fate at the conclusion of the Time of...

forgottenrealms.fandom.com

Here's the part in the Second Sundering that mentions what had happened to Tymanther:

On Nightal, some places of Abeir that had been part of Toril in the last century and viceversa were restored to their original worlds. Unther was returned to Toril by this process. While in Abeir, Unther had succumbed to the domination of the creatures native to that world. However, a reincarnated Gilgeam had led his people against their new oppressors, until their land was shifted back to Toril. Once there, Gilgeam immediately went against the dragonborn of Tymanther to take back all of Unther's ancestral land, starting the First Tymanther-Unther War.

The Untherite god Enlil also returned to Toril on Nightal, but he chose the dragonborn as his new protégés instead of the Untherans, manifesting in the shape of one of them in the citadel-city of Djerad Thymar. It was Enlil who allowed most of Tymanther to remain in Toril, stopping the magic of the Sundering to some degree. Only the northern portion of Tymanther was sent to Abeir, and the dragonborn nation was consequently reduced to its southern territories around the Alamber Sea and the Ash Lake.

First Tymanther–Unther War

The First Tymanther–Unther War was a conflict between the nations of Tymanther and Unther that took place in the Year of the Rune Lords Triumphant, 1487 DR.[1][2] At some point in 1486 DR, while on the world of Abeir, the god-king Gilgeam contacted the demon lord Graz'zt and asked him to aid...

forgottenrealms.fandom.com

I am starting to think the two new FR books take place on Toril 2024, not Toril 2014. Those aren't years btw, they're multiversal addresses. Kind of like the multiversal addresses seen in Marvel Comics.

 

[Zeromaru X]

The Sultana is not a Genie...?

And who said these Dragonborn were from Tymanther specifically? Tymanther is a Dragonborn space, but it was never even all of the Abseir Dragonborn. Dragonborn are just all over the place.

The previous lore had Tymanther and Returned Abeir (Laerakond) as the only places dragonborn originated from. They were supposed to be rare in the rear of the Realms, even 100 years after their arrival. That stuff of dragonborn being all over the place is a retcon of this book.

 

[Parmandur]

The previous lore had Tymanther and Returned Abeir (Laerakond) as the only place dragonborn originated from. They were supposed to be rare. That stuff of dragonborn being all over the place is a retcon of this book.

Not even, there were other parts of Returned Abeir in Toril that explicitly had Dragonborn.

And insofar as it is a retcon...it is a good one. All the Dragonborn everywhere on the whole planet coming from a monoculture Dragonbornlamd, Land of the Dragonborn, is kind of trash writing. That was never the case for Elves, Dwarves, Humans, etc.

 

[Yaarel]

That was never the case for Elves,

Wait. Am I remembering right? According to Forgotten Realms, the Elves did originally come from elsewhere, from Faerie.


In any case, the Dragons are everywhere in planet Toril. And Dragonborn come from magically altered Dragon eggs. So Dragonborn can be anywhere Dragons are. They are easy to explain, whether they first appeared in ancient times or recently.

 

[Parmandur]

Wait. Am I remembering right? According to Forgotten Realms, the Elves did originally come from elsewhere, from Faerie.


In any case, the Dragons are everywhere in planet Toril. And Dragonborn come from magically altered Dragon eggs. So Dragonborn can be anywhere Dragons are. They are easy to explain, whether they first appeared in ancient times or recently.

Elves share a mythic origin in the depths of time, but there are multiple Elven ethnicities, nations and cultures across Toril. There is Evermeet (Valinor witht he serial numbers filed off, beyond the Western Ocean), but it still isn't as monoculture.

 

[Mercurius]

Looks good. For someone wanting just the setting stuff, it is a bit annoying that it is spread across two books. For instance, it seems that the world overview is in the player's book, as well as factions, gods, etc. Would have liked a sharper bifurcation, though of DM/setting and player/characters/splat. I suppose their evil ploy worked and I'll be buying both.

 

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I have my books now. View attachment 420772

...when do the solstices + equinoxes fall?..the sword coast adventurer's guide implemented a pretty substantial shift...

 

[Mercador]

Looks good. For someone wanting just the setting stuff, it is a bit annoying that it is spread across two books. For instance, it seems that the world overview is in the player's book, as well as factions, gods, etc. Would have liked a sharper bifurcation, though of DM/setting and player/characters/splat. I suppose their evil ploy worked and I'll be buying both.

Exactly my case, I just want the lore parts.