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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seregil" data-source="post: 6229321" data-attributes="member: 38425">Ok, you are either being purposefully dense or you are simply not capable of understanding the facts.Two opinions: FR4e was a success or it wasn't.In this thread, we have testimony from people who KNOW the truth which indicates that FR 4e was not a success or, at the very least, was a mitigated one.Those are my facts.You, on the other hand, have NONE. For example:Other than your own opinion, do you have ANY information to back up your assertation? Because I (and the majority of others in this thread) have video evidence of people who work at WOTC IN the FR product line. You, as far as I can tell, have zip.I never said 4e failed, I said FR4e did not succeed, which is different. It did not go as well as they wanted, it went "off the rails in so many ways" to quote James Wyatt. I am arguing that the people who would KNOW how well it went (as opposed to guys like you and I) have indicated DIRECTLY that it did not succeed as well as they wanted and that it needed to be fixed.You have NOTHING but fanboism to counter those statements. You have shown NOTHING of any substance (in this thread, at least) that would render the statements made in the videos false. And saying it's "pure spin" is just you spinning it to your liking.Proof, find me some PROOF, some evidence, SOMETHING other than your opinion. Because, as you said, you "aren't a statistically significant portion of the audience". Read more: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?349407-Forgotten-Realms/page8#ixzz2mcnDcDDJ" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?349407-Forgotten-Realms/page8#ixzz2mcnDcDDJ</a> </blockquote>

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