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<blockquote data-quote="Vayden" data-source="post: 4513208" data-attributes="member: 57791">I think a lot of this thread is (as is typical on the internet) has turned into quibbling over degree. Allow me to summarize, ignoring many of the nuances:KarinsDad: My wizard can't do all of the awesome and interesting things he used to be able to do in 3e. (By the way, I don't like the 4e balance system and the removal of save-or-die/suck). Opponents: I ignore your fundamental disagreement with 4e's philosophy - I only perceive you as saying that Wizards are boring and suck now - I am having fun with my Wizard by doing X (even though it is balanced with the rest of the classes now), and I am offended that you don't like this style of wizard.I definitely see what you're saying KarinsDad. You are correct that wizards got hit with a GIANT nerf-bat. I happen to think that wizards are more fun to play now that you have to work a little harder and be more creative to use magic to solve your problems, and I think that 3.x magic made magic rote, boring, and utilitarian in play &quot;Hey, we have a problem - our ability to solve this problem is reduced to whether or not our Wizard can cast spell X today from his prepared spells and/or scrolls - he has it? Yay, we win. He doesn't? Oh no, now we must get creative&quot;. I suggest we respectfully agree to disagree on what makes a fun wizard for each of us.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vayden, post: 4513208, member: 57791"] I think a lot of this thread is (as is typical on the internet) has turned into quibbling over degree. Allow me to summarize, ignoring many of the nuances: KarinsDad: My wizard can't do all of the awesome and interesting things he used to be able to do in 3e. (By the way, I don't like the 4e balance system and the removal of save-or-die/suck). Opponents: I ignore your fundamental disagreement with 4e's philosophy - I only perceive you as saying that Wizards are boring and suck now - I am having fun with my Wizard by doing X (even though it is balanced with the rest of the classes now), and I am offended that you don't like this style of wizard. I definitely see what you're saying KarinsDad. You are correct that wizards got hit with a GIANT nerf-bat. I happen to think that wizards are more fun to play now that you have to work a little harder and be more creative to use magic to solve your problems, and I think that 3.x magic made magic rote, boring, and utilitarian in play "Hey, we have a problem - our ability to solve this problem is reduced to whether or not our Wizard can cast spell X today from his prepared spells and/or scrolls - he has it? Yay, we win. He doesn't? Oh no, now we must get creative". I suggest we respectfully agree to disagree on what makes a fun wizard for each of us. [/QUOTE]

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