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<blockquote data-quote="Doctor Proctor" data-source="post: 4515491" data-attributes="member: 78547">What do you expect?&nbsp; The encounter you were is immediately before the Irontooth encounter.&nbsp; You're essentially taking on the whole Kobold/Goblin lair in a frontal assault!&nbsp; You're doing this because it will eliminate the Kobold threat that Winterhaven is facing...most would call this &quot;acting heroically&quot;.This encounter is supposed to be difficult.&nbsp; Remember the Mega Man games?&nbsp; When you got to the last level, you didn't just walk 5 feet and fight Dr. Wily, you had to blow your way through a whole army of minions in order to get to him.&nbsp; That's essentially what this encounter is...you have to fight your way through all those guys to get to Irontooth, who is the big bad guy that's the focus of this side-quest.Not true.&nbsp; My party and I have defeated Irontooth, gotten to level 2, and are now in the Keep proper.&nbsp; The encounters there, so far at least (we've explored all of the first level, and part of the second level), have been fairly short.&nbsp; You're usually dealing with only a half-dozen or so monsters, and with the new Utility powers we picked up, the new feats, the bonuses and the better understanding of our roles within the party, we're crushing them in just a couple rounds.I will admit that the first few encounters were pretty large and involved, but the dungeon encounters are much shorter and less of a grind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Doctor Proctor, post: 4515491, member: 78547"] What do you expect? The encounter you were is immediately before the Irontooth encounter. You're essentially taking on the whole Kobold/Goblin lair in a frontal assault! You're doing this because it will eliminate the Kobold threat that Winterhaven is facing...most would call this "acting heroically". This encounter is supposed to be difficult. Remember the Mega Man games? When you got to the last level, you didn't just walk 5 feet and fight Dr. Wily, you had to blow your way through a whole army of minions in order to get to him. That's essentially what this encounter is...you have to fight your way through all those guys to get to Irontooth, who is the big bad guy that's the focus of this side-quest. Not true. My party and I have defeated Irontooth, gotten to level 2, and are now in the Keep proper. The encounters there, so far at least (we've explored all of the first level, and part of the second level), have been fairly short. You're usually dealing with only a half-dozen or so monsters, and with the new Utility powers we picked up, the new feats, the bonuses and the better understanding of our roles within the party, we're crushing them in just a couple rounds. I will admit that the first few encounters were pretty large and involved, but the dungeon encounters are much shorter and less of a grind. [/QUOTE]

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