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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4516745" data-attributes="member: 2011">Like I said earlier, I really do not understand the concept of multiple combat challenges or OAs occurring frequently (as per some people saying 1-3 AoOs per round nearly every round).For example, if the Ranger flanks a Combat Challenged monster with the Fighter, that monster is at significant disadvantage. However, the moment the Ranger flanks the monster is the moment the monster's allies might be able to flank the Ranger. And the moment the Fighter takes on a monster in the first place is the moment that the monster's allies might be able to flank the Fighter.Also, if the Fighter marks with his Combat Challenge, he IS using his Combat Challenge. He does not need to get the free attack to be doing his job of keeping at least one foe off of his allies. The DM does not need to play the monsters in a certain way just in order to give the player of the Fighter free Combat Challenge attacks. All of this is choice. If the players choose to play their PCs in a certain way and the DM chooses to play his creatures in a certain way, then more CCs and OAs will occur.But I don't think the game system design is intended to have this occur. I think the intent is to lock down monsters, not give Fighters free attacks. The latter is a consequence of the former ignoring the lock down, not the responsibility of the DM to ensure that it happens.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4516745, member: 2011"] Like I said earlier, I really do not understand the concept of multiple combat challenges or OAs occurring frequently (as per some people saying 1-3 AoOs per round nearly every round). For example, if the Ranger flanks a Combat Challenged monster with the Fighter, that monster is at significant disadvantage. However, the moment the Ranger flanks the monster is the moment the monster's allies might be able to flank the Ranger. And the moment the Fighter takes on a monster in the first place is the moment that the monster's allies might be able to flank the Fighter. Also, if the Fighter marks with his Combat Challenge, he IS using his Combat Challenge. He does not need to get the free attack to be doing his job of keeping at least one foe off of his allies. The DM does not need to play the monsters in a certain way just in order to give the player of the Fighter free Combat Challenge attacks. All of this is choice. If the players choose to play their PCs in a certain way and the DM chooses to play his creatures in a certain way, then more CCs and OAs will occur. But I don't think the game system design is intended to have this occur. I think the intent is to lock down monsters, not give Fighters free attacks. The latter is a consequence of the former ignoring the lock down, not the responsibility of the DM to ensure that it happens. [/QUOTE]

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