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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4518461" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Apples and Oranges. Monster Knowledge checks indicate Race. They do not indicate Class. Just because PCs can figure out Race with a Monster Knowledge check does not mean that NPCs can figure out Class. Other knowledge checks might be an indicator to class, but why would this information be given out to all monsters for free?</p><p></p><p>If a monster made a Monster Knowledge check about a PC, he would know that it is a Dragonborn. How exactly does it know that the Dragonborn is a Paladin or a Fighter?</p><p></p><p>In 4E, Wizards can wear platemail. In 4E, Rogues can use the same weapons as any other class.</p><p></p><p>So, how does a monster tell if a Cleric shouts "Get them" or the Rogue shouts "Get them"?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Class is training or profession information. If classes can use the same equipment, how is it that a monster would reasonably know one class from a different one?</p><p></p><p>Answer: Common Knowledge is DC 15.</p><p></p><p>How exactly does a monster know that a Wizard cast a spell as opposed to a Cleric casting a prayer as opposed to a Warlock casting a spell if the monster does not make a common knowledge DC 15 Arcana or Religion check? Most monsters do not have these skills.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4518461, member: 2011"] Apples and Oranges. Monster Knowledge checks indicate Race. They do not indicate Class. Just because PCs can figure out Race with a Monster Knowledge check does not mean that NPCs can figure out Class. Other knowledge checks might be an indicator to class, but why would this information be given out to all monsters for free? If a monster made a Monster Knowledge check about a PC, he would know that it is a Dragonborn. How exactly does it know that the Dragonborn is a Paladin or a Fighter? In 4E, Wizards can wear platemail. In 4E, Rogues can use the same weapons as any other class. So, how does a monster tell if a Cleric shouts "Get them" or the Rogue shouts "Get them"? Class is training or profession information. If classes can use the same equipment, how is it that a monster would reasonably know one class from a different one? Answer: Common Knowledge is DC 15. How exactly does a monster know that a Wizard cast a spell as opposed to a Cleric casting a prayer as opposed to a Warlock casting a spell if the monster does not make a common knowledge DC 15 Arcana or Religion check? Most monsters do not have these skills. [/QUOTE]
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