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<blockquote data-quote="Verys Arkon" data-source="post: 4703733" data-attributes="member: 60891">It is far from obvious that the changes made to FR were because of 4e's game system.&nbsp; I would think it has more to do with FR's massive bloat causing potential new players and DMs shy away from it.&nbsp; On the other hand, some people love the bloat - they love to read the detail and delve into the nuances.&nbsp; I think this comes from the dichotomy between D&amp;D as a game you play between sessions, and a game you play at the table.I for one appreciate that FR is pruned back to a manageable level that allows me to be creative without my players correcting me all the time because 'it isn't like that in novel X'.&nbsp; I never played Ravenloft, so I'm not sure how much bloat a 4e version would have to trim.&nbsp; I get the impression that Ravenloft is more about the tone than the mechanics.&nbsp; If thats the case, it shouldn't take too much to bring it into 4e-speak.&nbsp; All settings will have some little mechanical changes or additions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Verys Arkon, post: 4703733, member: 60891"] It is far from obvious that the changes made to FR were because of 4e's game system. I would think it has more to do with FR's massive bloat causing potential new players and DMs shy away from it. On the other hand, some people love the bloat - they love to read the detail and delve into the nuances. I think this comes from the dichotomy between D&D as a game you play between sessions, and a game you play at the table. I for one appreciate that FR is pruned back to a manageable level that allows me to be creative without my players correcting me all the time because 'it isn't like that in novel X'. I never played Ravenloft, so I'm not sure how much bloat a 4e version would have to trim. I get the impression that Ravenloft is more about the tone than the mechanics. If thats the case, it shouldn't take too much to bring it into 4e-speak. All settings will have some little mechanical changes or additions. [/QUOTE]

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