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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nahat Anoj" data-source="post: 3558083" data-attributes="member: 25075">Formian's Advocate:  Understanding LNThe CN thread really helped me get a good handle on what CN is and how it might work at the society level.  While I feel like I have a better handle on LN, maybe I could learn a bit more!  Regarding the "rejection of individuality," I don't think LNs think about it that way - the phrase implies that individuality is valuable.  Rather, I see them as saying that complete submission to authority/society/etc. is the best route to individual happiness and well-being.  This is similar to the CN philosopher who says that unfettered individual liberties will lead to the betterment of society.  Of course, in neither case do the philosophers advocate active promotion of these "benefits" - they just happen to be benign side effects of adhering to what's "really" important.  As I said with CN, I'll also say here that such a belief smacks of ivory tower scholarship, wherein scholars debate ideals that may not function quite as well in reality.Regarding consideration of circumstances in enforcing laws, I feel it could go either way.  Certainly some crimes (such as those that subvert the social order on a wide scale) are more serious than others (such as those that have little to no impact on the larger social order), and I think LNs do distinguish between them.  Indeed, I suspect LNs prefer to have lots of laws that codify the exact punishment for a certain crime.  However, I can also see an LN society that has brutally harsh punishments by modern Western standards.  I guess this is one of the things I'm hoping that others will flesh out a bit more for me.Finally, regarding the disctinction between LE and LN and whether it focuses on celebrating executions or not, I guess in large part I think that summarizes my view fairly well.  IMO, LNs will trust that the authorities made the correct decision.  LNs may still be saddened, because the person no longer has the ability to join society and be productive, but I think by and large they'll believe that the person deserved his fate and move on.</blockquote>

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