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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 8378988" data-attributes="member: 7808">As a side point here (only defending myself a little bit  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> ) AppleTV has not made any universally available app for Android or Windows. They have only released device specific support. They've done a good job expanding the list in the last few months, but they started with just Apple, Roku, and Amazon Fire. I still can't access it on my phone, and can only use on it on my computer via a browser interface. The "walled garden" is a bigger garden, but it's still got walls.That being said, HBO was one of the original "walled garden" companies as a premium cable channel, and they have some of the most watched TV series ever.  So there's no reason to think this will stop them from being successful.  What are the odds we'll see hotels advertising "Free AppleTV+" the way you used to see "Free HBO" on signs?</blockquote>