DM_Matt said:
Well, the base vamp was SKR's Fleshbound Vampire, which is only CR +1, and doesnt have a lot of the really big-ticket abilitties like Dmoinate and Gaseous Form at will, flying, summoning, etc. Greater Scrying at a 1/4 mile range (rather than accross planes), a slightly longer-range but restricted to shadowy areas dimension door, and a telepathic bond among them is not rediculous for one of them to have INSTEAD of the other vampire abilities even...BUT is still have these guys at Class LEvel +3 CR
I guess their "scrying ability" is more like Clairvoyance, tho.
The only thing I actually disagree here is the "Dimension Door" at will ability, which is extremely powerful IMHO. Especially since it isn't even a Dimension Door, as it allows action after transporting like the Shade's ability, but without the restrictions (like once every other round - this ability alone is very powerful) and also allows to transport non-willing targets (at least they did that), or to transport targets at all (which the Shade's ability does not allow). It's the best of both worlds, so to say.
With that ability they could easily pop in, grapple one character, drag him to some place a thousand feet away, defeat him, pop back in, repeat! With their extremely high strength (their high damage must come from somewhere, if they are really only level 5-6, so I guess they must be exceptionally strong
), that shouldn't even be a problem.
See where I'm coming from, when I say their CR must be pretty high?
They also used their shadow jump twice in a single round, but I guess that was more of an oversight or maybe you just started initiative after they appeared and therefore they had the chance to act twice in a row this way. At least they did act twice before we could even act once there!
And since Rahja's action would've interfered with theirs, it looked like you just wanted the prisoners and Danilo to be out of the way (for whatever reason, I still wonder, why they didn't take Rahja and Ines with them as well, or at least tried, or why they need the prisoners, and if that trade with the Talosans was not meant to take place, why the prisoners havn't been transported off a long time ago already - but I guess we'll one day be able to find at least some answers to these questions (at least what they are doing with the prisoners)) and us to be alone with the two wizards (who obviously provide the link to the rest of the party
). This is probably not completely true and not meant as an accusation, I'm just saying how it looked like then.
And with discussing the CR stuff here, I'm mainly trying to say, that you should not underestimate these abilities you gave to them as a whole (even if individual abilities might not be overly powerful (i.e. the telepathic link), the combination really adds up).
But whatever it is... I was merely asking to have a better understanding of what's going on, as many things seemed weird or based on wrong assumptions from my limited point of view.
Most of that confusion is cleared up by now. Thank you!
Bye
Thanee
