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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 492182" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>[ooc] well, i'll perceive that as an olive branch extended, and I'll respond in kind, Matt.</p><p></p><p>While I don't know how the other players have perceived things (since noone has posted any comments about the game other than me), all I can post is my thoughts and impressions.</p><p></p><p>I do not speak for the 'group', but since I've been most vocal, than I'll step up to the plate.</p><p></p><p>While the mapping is an issue (pretty necessary for combats at this level), the real problem is your <strong>approach</strong> to the combats so far.</p><p></p><p>To summarize: while these ARE peripheral combats on the way to the main site, they are pretty glaring examples (to me) of you dismissing the player's intentions.</p><p></p><p>It's kind of funny - we have a DM in our group that your style reminds me a lot of - one that concentrates on story more than mechanics.</p><p>While that approach might work in cases, I hope it's obvious that it hasn't worked here so far.</p><p></p><p>To Wit: How is Calain's use of <em>one spell</em> a better resolvement of this dragon scene than the cooperative efforts and heroic impact of having Ubaar, Akharos, and Calain's Tentacles subdue the dragon thru brute force?</p><p></p><p>Why did you dismiss that combined effort so fast, with no thought about the impact on the scene?</p><p>In my eyes, IF that dragon is a 21+ HD Templated Dragon with the ability to cast a 6th level spell, wouldn't that make him about Wyrm age?</p><p>But you said it was 'only' Large size, which squarely puts him in the adult age category.</p><p>I know I'm using current MM dragon-stats to estimate these things, but what else do we have?</p><p>I wanted to see what a fun and interesting way to resolve this scene was, and offered to have Ubaar grapple the beast.</p><p>Everyone seemed to want to try it, but you apparently didn't think that was the best approach?</p><p>You instead wanted us to find out from the dragon exactly WHY the "Coward" tattoo was placed on him? And how were we supposed to do that? Ask him? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>IF this dragon is so powerful to be throwing around 6th level spells and to be shrugging off Ubaar's not-inconsequential grapple attempt (or Akharas or Calain), than WHY would it be affected so much by Calain's Ball Lightning spell?</p><p>Isn't Ball Lightning 'only' a 9d6 attack? Isn't that 'only' 31.5 damage a round, more likely saved for half?</p><p>Why would that affect the dragon - I obviously missed something, since Ubaar (and probably Akharos) alone can manage MUCH more damage than that per round, and that's not including the potent archers we have, and their damage output.</p><p></p><p>Your dismissal of the party's attacks with a wave of your DM hand, while then having the Horrid Beast subdued by a simple 9d6 attack is alarmingly nauseating to ME as a player, and raises some BIG questions about your ability to DM high-level combats and also your decisions as a DM.</p><p></p><p>Well, that's my major impressions.</p><p></p><p>I want to applaud you for this part:I'm listening, and I think it's stand-up of you to recognize this situation and be willing to deal with it.</p><p>I am excited about the game still (but I am much more active than the normal player in PbP's - you'd have to assess the other's desires to continue individually), but at the same time I don't know how you can change your approach to DMing THAT fast, or that completely.</p><p></p><p>Here's to gaming *raises glass*[/ooc]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 492182, member: 1194"] [ooc] well, i'll perceive that as an olive branch extended, and I'll respond in kind, Matt. While I don't know how the other players have perceived things (since noone has posted any comments about the game other than me), all I can post is my thoughts and impressions. I do not speak for the 'group', but since I've been most vocal, than I'll step up to the plate. While the mapping is an issue (pretty necessary for combats at this level), the real problem is your [b]approach[/b] to the combats so far. To summarize: while these ARE peripheral combats on the way to the main site, they are pretty glaring examples (to me) of you dismissing the player's intentions. It's kind of funny - we have a DM in our group that your style reminds me a lot of - one that concentrates on story more than mechanics. While that approach might work in cases, I hope it's obvious that it hasn't worked here so far. To Wit: How is Calain's use of [i]one spell[/i] a better resolvement of this dragon scene than the cooperative efforts and heroic impact of having Ubaar, Akharos, and Calain's Tentacles subdue the dragon thru brute force? Why did you dismiss that combined effort so fast, with no thought about the impact on the scene? In my eyes, IF that dragon is a 21+ HD Templated Dragon with the ability to cast a 6th level spell, wouldn't that make him about Wyrm age? But you said it was 'only' Large size, which squarely puts him in the adult age category. I know I'm using current MM dragon-stats to estimate these things, but what else do we have? I wanted to see what a fun and interesting way to resolve this scene was, and offered to have Ubaar grapple the beast. Everyone seemed to want to try it, but you apparently didn't think that was the best approach? You instead wanted us to find out from the dragon exactly WHY the "Coward" tattoo was placed on him? And how were we supposed to do that? Ask him? :( IF this dragon is so powerful to be throwing around 6th level spells and to be shrugging off Ubaar's not-inconsequential grapple attempt (or Akharas or Calain), than WHY would it be affected so much by Calain's Ball Lightning spell? Isn't Ball Lightning 'only' a 9d6 attack? Isn't that 'only' 31.5 damage a round, more likely saved for half? Why would that affect the dragon - I obviously missed something, since Ubaar (and probably Akharos) alone can manage MUCH more damage than that per round, and that's not including the potent archers we have, and their damage output. Your dismissal of the party's attacks with a wave of your DM hand, while then having the Horrid Beast subdued by a simple 9d6 attack is alarmingly nauseating to ME as a player, and raises some BIG questions about your ability to DM high-level combats and also your decisions as a DM. Well, that's my major impressions. I want to applaud you for this part:I'm listening, and I think it's stand-up of you to recognize this situation and be willing to deal with it. I am excited about the game still (but I am much more active than the normal player in PbP's - you'd have to assess the other's desires to continue individually), but at the same time I don't know how you can change your approach to DMing THAT fast, or that completely. Here's to gaming *raises glass*[/ooc] [/QUOTE]
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