Friday Worldbuilding Fun: Supers Appear in Different Eras and/or Settings

Reynard

aka Ian Eller
Traditionally, due to the origins of superhero comics in the real world, supers appear in their setting around or during World War 2. Sometimes it is a little earlier (WW1) or later (the Atomic Age) but most superhero RPG settings have them appear in the early to mid 20th century.

I think it would be fun to explore what it looks like if supers appear in other times and/or settings. One you see on occasion is the Mythic Age (Bronze Age stuff) so character like Heracles are really just supers that appeared. Sometimes games or comics suggest a very contemporary arrival of supers.

But what about supers first appearing in Warring States Japan? Or the Crusades? Or in the cyberpunk future?

Have you created a setting where supers appear at a "non-traditional" time and/or place? Did it result in a capes and cowls superhero setting? What comics or RPGs or video games have you seen where supers appeared sometime other than the 20th century? Did you use those for inspiration?

Way back when I naively believed that I could be a comic book writer, I created a universe in which a godlike psychic space entity attacked Earth and when humanity managed to defeat it, it shattered into thousands of "pieces" and each shard settled in a person, who became a super. (Kind of inspired by Rising Suns, if I recall; like I said, I was young and naive.) That was a 5-minutes-in-the-future setting.
 

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There was a new GURPS Infinite Worlds PDF released recently: Gotterdammerung.

Infinite Worlds in general are a series of alternate-earth worlds with key divergences from the ‘home timeline’. Gotterdammerung is a ‘unique’ phenomena in the Infinite Worlds campaign frame. It features multiple different alternative earths that have collapsed into one. It has four different overlayed ‘substrates’ where powers first emerged: Mesopotamia in 1150 BC, China in 480 BC, Greece in 323 BC, and the USA in 1750 AD. Each source of variance tends to spawn different types of powers, and the current-day world powers (i.e. great power nations) are heavily influenced by the presence of these special individuals.

It’s a very interesting campaign concept.
 

I recall several What If. and Dark Knights where they did this. Supers as knights in medieval times and Superman landing in Germany instead of America.

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I have had a long-running fantasy of running a supers campaign where the source of superheroic powers is an extradimensional leak that's getting worse over time, and progressively changing the physics of the universe. (Leave aside that this would destroy our universe as we know it long before it'd create Superman.)

So when the leak first started, it created a few beings who were considered gods. By the time the 21st century rolls around, it's like Marvel Universe at its most stuffed.

The campaign would ideally jump back and forth across the timeline, seeing how these earlier proto-supes lived, and how their powers were interpreted as miracles or weird science, etc.
 


Marvel 1602 was really good. If you can find it in a used bookstore or some other way that doesn't give Neil Gaiman any money, I'd recommend it.
 

Marvel 1602 was really good. If you can find it in a used bookstore or some other way that doesn't give Neil Gaiman any money, I'd recommend it.
Yeah, excellent series (like most of Gaiman's work).

Why does everyone who makes cool stuff always end up sucking as a person?
 

I recall several What If. and Dark Knights where they did this. Supers as knights in medieval times and Superman landing in Germany instead of America.

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I feel like the Marvel and DC takes on this kind of thing have been really, really bad and frankly lazy examples of what you could do here, because pretty much all of them relentlessly and I do mean utterly relentlessly focus on making the heroes/villains very similar to what they are in the main setting, immediately aesthetically recognisable, immediately having the same approximate mindset, using their powers in a similar way, and so on.

And I don't think any of that makes sense at all, and frankly to me, it's not even interesting. I want to see the difference, not fate's inevitability.

I do think people often do a slightly better job with Superman than other heroes, oddly enough, because even comics writers who fail to engage brain much tend to realize how much the Kents and Smallville influenced Superman, and how if he has different parents and environs, he's different, whereas the opposite seems to the case for I dunno, literally every single other hero they do this with, where they're like, 95% similar but with some twist like they're in the Yakuza or something.

But what about supers first appearing in Warring States Japan? Or the Crusades? Or in the cyberpunk future?
I think the key thing will be like, what's the power source?

Because, y'know, cyberpunk future, tons and tons of people are on "low-end superhero" (and some mid-end!) in terms of powers. Like, Adam Smasher or David Martinez could probably take out half the X-Men, even facing multiple ones at once.

So we kinda know what merely possessing cybernetic superhuman ability looks like there.

But if you suddenly had, say, X-Men-style mutations emerge, absolutely all hell would break loose in a cyberpunk setting, as every megacorp on the planet tried to either gain control of mutants, replicate the powers (and commodify them), or the like. Whereas if you had a good-natured wildly superhuman alien or ten arrive, they might just absolutely smash the megacorps for being evil, or might try and do that and end up causing some kind of apocalyptic destruction as the megacorps unleashed absolutely every terror weapon and secret project they had brewing to try and stop them. I feel like in a cyberpunk situation, people trying to mind-control superhumans in various ways is likely to be a major factor, either by like brute force cybernetics attached to override them, drugs and VR to "reprogram" them, nanites to alter their brain/body chemistry, brain bombs (the ol' Suicide Squad) or whatever.

In the Crusades I think it'd probably start off with everyone saying "Our god did it!", but literally within 50 years, the most powerful surviving superheroes would be taking a more "I AM GOD, ACTUALLY!" attitude, and have cults dedicated to them, personally, and probably a whole bunch of other superhumans who were weaker than them serving them. Christianity and Islam would probably kinda be sidelined or even basically robbed for iconography and ideas, and then kicked in a ditch. Strange cults absolutely flourished in the middle age, and when the Catholic church can't really tell Templar-man "Actually you're a heretic and excommunicated" because he'll just fly to Rome and glower threateningly at the Pope until the Pope says "Sorry, actually you're fine, he's a papal bull saying you're fine and a living saint and your followers are spot on", it's only going to happen more.

First-mover and second-mover advantage would also be huge in the crusaders, because if the Catholic church did manage to get a loyal "heretic killer" squad assembled quickly enough they might be able to lock down all the inevitable "Hmmm kinda feels like I might be Jesus 2.0" people.

If the empowerment was also equally common for both/all genders, that would really mess with the dynamics of the medieval world, because, if fully 50% of the most powerful people on the planet, people who can vapourize your stupid column of knights and push over your castle are women, uhhhh, I don't think they're going to appreciate you treating women really badly. It's not like people didn't have feminist ideas in the middle ages. They sure as hell did, it kept coming up, over and over. It's just they tended to be y'know, brutally repressed or hidden away. But I think being extremely powerful would rapidly change that. You might well find gendered conflicts between superheroes too. Also, good luck telling Templar-man that being gay is a terrible sin when he has decided he wants to marry his male fiance, Mr Pope. I don't think it would be "all good" - there'd probably be some superpowered genocides and so on.

I do think "knightly virtues" might come up, especially if a lot of heroes were around a similar power level - it might well act as a sort of détente to have most supers (across religions and cults) agree to a somewhat-fake but also kinda real "We kill peasants, not each other" deal.

Anyway, that's enough for now - I think you could really do a lot with these and others.
 
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League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?

The problem with going back to the mythic ages (Mesopotamia, Hellenic Greece, Ancient China etc) is that Superheroes are also mythic characters hence Hercules, Thor, Gilgamesh and Sun Wukong are all recurring Superheroes.

Medieval, Renaissance, Age of Sail, Early Modern, Victorian and Western Eras can be done with low powered heroes like Batman and even Wonderwoman (nerfed), but the Mythic heroes warp the storytelling in those eras
 

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