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<blockquote data-quote="jdeleski" data-source="post: 5340136" data-attributes="member: 33307">I agree with the points made in the discussion above, but find one area of the &quot;attack while grappled&quot; rules that seems a bit odd:&nbsp; the grappled creature is allowed to attack anyone within reach as long as the attack can be made with a single hand.&nbsp; &nbsp;The part that I find odd is that the grappled creature can make that attack, even against creatures who are outside the grapple, without first making a CMB/CMD check against the creature that controls the grapple.&nbsp; Making this attack would seem to me to be similar to other combat manuevers that are attempted while within a grapple.&nbsp; I can potentially see why the grappled (and not controlling) creature might be able to easily attack the grapple controlling opponent, since that opponent is right there in his face trying to maintain the grapple, but attacking creatures outside the grapple seems a stretch.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;J.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jdeleski, post: 5340136, member: 33307"] I agree with the points made in the discussion above, but find one area of the "attack while grappled" rules that seems a bit odd: the grappled creature is allowed to attack anyone within reach as long as the attack can be made with a single hand. The part that I find odd is that the grappled creature can make that attack, even against creatures who are outside the grapple, without first making a CMB/CMD check against the creature that controls the grapple. Making this attack would seem to me to be similar to other combat manuevers that are attempted while within a grapple. I can potentially see why the grappled (and not controlling) creature might be able to easily attack the grapple controlling opponent, since that opponent is right there in his face trying to maintain the grapple, but attacking creatures outside the grapple seems a stretch. ;) J. [/QUOTE]

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