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<blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 758814" data-attributes="member: 9026"><p>Yo Ant, if you wanna DM go ahead, I was just offering cuz nobody else had comeforward and I liked the idea.</p><p>Sorry if I rub you thre wrong way, but if you take offense to my words, that's your problem not mine. </p><p>I just like playing by core rules, ok? if u don't like limits, that's fine, but unlike most people out there that join these high level games, I don't have the resources to create a super-ultra-powergaming-character. I don't buy every book that comes out, and I'm one of those old-fashioned guys who actually believes that if you want a book, you should buy it, not pirate it from Kazoo or whatever it is. </p><p>I've found any high level character using the splat-books ends up being a super-character in their field.. Unhitable, Unkillable, can't fail a save, Kills with one shot, Always hits, minimum 20 damage per shot with 12 attacks per round, spells with DCs over 80, etc, etc. </p><p>When it's that kinda game, it's just no fun to us normal guys who're stuck thinking a +5 vorpal keen g.sword with improved crit and weapon specialization or a spell with a save dc over 30 is actually worth using. </p><p></p><p>ON a side note, one time I made what I thought was the BEST POSSIBLE mage ever.. lvl 20 Sorc, PHB/DMG only, and then my friend made a lvl 15 Sorc using splatbooks, and his lvl 15 was able to single handedly beat mine 9 times out of 10. Neither of us used prestige classes, the only differences were feats, equipment, and spells. We did the battle 10 times, to limit the 'random effect', and the only reason I won ANY of them was b/c he rolled a 1 on a save vs my finger of death.</p><p></p><p>SO that's another reason I only allow core books, but mainly it's b/c when I DM, I actually like knowing what my PCS can do.. not having 200 different books means I would need info.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, if you're not pissed at me for disagreeing with you, and you want me, I might be able to make a character that's almost half as powerful as I could put together with more books, but if you're willing to have a mere mortal among your players, I'll apply. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>Other reason I'm willing to try is b/c of your 'No blatant min-maxing' thing, which means I might actually have a chance to contribute to the team with my PHB-DMG-ELH character with only 1 or two 'normal' classes, and maybe a prestige class if I find one that fits. SO, who makes the 'final cut'.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and if anyone would still like to play in an Epic game like the one I described in my last post, just say so and If I get enough interest I'll think up an idea and maybe post a recruitment thread If I can come up with something I think is worthy of your time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jemal, post: 758814, member: 9026"] Yo Ant, if you wanna DM go ahead, I was just offering cuz nobody else had comeforward and I liked the idea. Sorry if I rub you thre wrong way, but if you take offense to my words, that's your problem not mine. I just like playing by core rules, ok? if u don't like limits, that's fine, but unlike most people out there that join these high level games, I don't have the resources to create a super-ultra-powergaming-character. I don't buy every book that comes out, and I'm one of those old-fashioned guys who actually believes that if you want a book, you should buy it, not pirate it from Kazoo or whatever it is. I've found any high level character using the splat-books ends up being a super-character in their field.. Unhitable, Unkillable, can't fail a save, Kills with one shot, Always hits, minimum 20 damage per shot with 12 attacks per round, spells with DCs over 80, etc, etc. When it's that kinda game, it's just no fun to us normal guys who're stuck thinking a +5 vorpal keen g.sword with improved crit and weapon specialization or a spell with a save dc over 30 is actually worth using. ON a side note, one time I made what I thought was the BEST POSSIBLE mage ever.. lvl 20 Sorc, PHB/DMG only, and then my friend made a lvl 15 Sorc using splatbooks, and his lvl 15 was able to single handedly beat mine 9 times out of 10. Neither of us used prestige classes, the only differences were feats, equipment, and spells. We did the battle 10 times, to limit the 'random effect', and the only reason I won ANY of them was b/c he rolled a 1 on a save vs my finger of death. SO that's another reason I only allow core books, but mainly it's b/c when I DM, I actually like knowing what my PCS can do.. not having 200 different books means I would need info. Anyways, if you're not pissed at me for disagreeing with you, and you want me, I might be able to make a character that's almost half as powerful as I could put together with more books, but if you're willing to have a mere mortal among your players, I'll apply. ;) Other reason I'm willing to try is b/c of your 'No blatant min-maxing' thing, which means I might actually have a chance to contribute to the team with my PHB-DMG-ELH character with only 1 or two 'normal' classes, and maybe a prestige class if I find one that fits. SO, who makes the 'final cut'. Oh, and if anyone would still like to play in an Epic game like the one I described in my last post, just say so and If I get enough interest I'll think up an idea and maybe post a recruitment thread If I can come up with something I think is worthy of your time. [/QUOTE]
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