Fun While Prone

[yu gnomi]

wrt to ranged attacks: I only meant in context of being immune to power affects. RAW is being prone can be a good strategy when attacked by ranged attacks.

wrt to monsters benefitting by free stand up (unimmobilize, etc). Since using power is players discretion, I don't see the harm.

 

[Danceofmasks]

Well, come and get it is already very strong.
Allowing extra effects might break it entirely ..

They worded it that way on purpose, 'cos it means which direction and square they shift it's their choice .. if it was meant to be forcing them to come to you, then it would have been pull 2.
Just saying.
Pull 2 = don't care if they're stunned, immobilised, prone, or over difficult terrain.
Shift 2 = I made you mad, but if you can't physically do it, then never mind.

 

[Krensus]

Most monsters who get knocked prone will happily soak an attack from the fighter to get a free action stand up. A free move action is greater than the damage when it comes down to economy of actions.

 

[Danceofmasks]

Oh, and since you're asking so nicely, the minions moved adjacent first .. now there's no room for the boss-man to move, so he declined.
How convenient.

 

[Krensus]

"Good job, Fighter, you really fired up those minions! They want your head now! Big guy does too, but he just can't squeeze in. Darn."

 

[NeoNick]

Pull 2 = don't care if they're stunned, immobilised, prone, or over difficult terrain.
Shift 2 = I made you mad, but if you can't physically do it, then never mind.

Not as I understand it from page 285 in PH. All three of push, pull and slide are handled similarly it seems to me. "Whether you’re pulling, pushing, or sliding a target, certain rules govern all forced movement."

This is off topic but it's pretty important to clarify how push vs slide works.

Any comments?

 

[Krensus]

Not as I understand it from page 285 in PH. All three of push, pull and slide are handled similarly it seems to me. "Whether you’re pulling, pushing, or sliding a target, certain rules govern all forced movement."

This is off topic but it's pretty important to clarify how push vs slide works.

Any comments?

I believe the main difference between push and slide is that in a push, you force the target to move, but each square you move it has to be further away from the origin of the pushing power. Pull is the opposite. Slide means you can move them however you please.

 

[NeoNick]

Agreed, but the question is wether "stunned, immobilised, prone, or over difficult terrain" are handled differently when "Pull 2" compared to "Shift 2".

I think not.

 

[yu gnomi]

In case of Come and Get it, the foes shift themselves and it is not forced movement.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Any comments?

Yes - you're mixing up Shift and Slide.

A Slide is forced movement.

Come And Get It does not slide the opponent. Come And Get It causes the opponent to Shift. A Shift is not Forced Movement, so it doesn't bypass movement restrictions.

-Hyp.