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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8620351" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>What's really funny is, thinking back, because we treated the Aztecs (and the Vikings for that matter) with some respect and tried to understand their culture and way of life rather than being taught they were bloodthirsty psychopaths, despite their keen-ness on human sacrifice (and the Viking keen-ness on raiding and plunder), the teachers/curriculum no doubt be labelled as "woke" if this was today (c.f "woke tyrannosaurus" and other insane stuff). I can see the headlines now!</p><p></p><p>Re: critical thinking specifically part of it may be I was at a public school by then (went state until 10, then public until 16, then private - I actually liked the public school the least by miles), and the establishment is much less afraid of potential establishment recruits being critical thinkers (indeed, the specific school was a pipeline to the establishment - though not to the same degree as Eton/Harrow/Westminster/etc.).</p><p></p><p>Also I totally got radicalized against the Saxons in History aged about 11-12. Admittedly 1500 years too late to do anything about it lol. So I guess they taught us about that - we also had this amazing program on the BBC Micro which was kind of Oregon Trail but you were Saxon invaders having to round up and enslave Celts and force them to build your motte-and-bailey castle so you could round up and enslave more Celts. It was all about timing - as resistance took a while to form, you actually wanted to do go hard on gathering slaves and do the hard bits first before the Celts organised a proper army, which was slightly counter-intuitive.</p><p></p><p>Ugh that sucks, sorry. I had four history teachers over secondary school, two of whom were almost Dead Poets Society levels of inspirational. One of those, when Gulf War 1 started, he was like "our planned lessons are cancelled, we're going to watch coverage of this and discuss it, because history is happening right now". That was pretty amazing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8620351, member: 18"] What's really funny is, thinking back, because we treated the Aztecs (and the Vikings for that matter) with some respect and tried to understand their culture and way of life rather than being taught they were bloodthirsty psychopaths, despite their keen-ness on human sacrifice (and the Viking keen-ness on raiding and plunder), the teachers/curriculum no doubt be labelled as "woke" if this was today (c.f "woke tyrannosaurus" and other insane stuff). I can see the headlines now! Re: critical thinking specifically part of it may be I was at a public school by then (went state until 10, then public until 16, then private - I actually liked the public school the least by miles), and the establishment is much less afraid of potential establishment recruits being critical thinkers (indeed, the specific school was a pipeline to the establishment - though not to the same degree as Eton/Harrow/Westminster/etc.). Also I totally got radicalized against the Saxons in History aged about 11-12. Admittedly 1500 years too late to do anything about it lol. So I guess they taught us about that - we also had this amazing program on the BBC Micro which was kind of Oregon Trail but you were Saxon invaders having to round up and enslave Celts and force them to build your motte-and-bailey castle so you could round up and enslave more Celts. It was all about timing - as resistance took a while to form, you actually wanted to do go hard on gathering slaves and do the hard bits first before the Celts organised a proper army, which was slightly counter-intuitive. Ugh that sucks, sorry. I had four history teachers over secondary school, two of whom were almost Dead Poets Society levels of inspirational. One of those, when Gulf War 1 started, he was like "our planned lessons are cancelled, we're going to watch coverage of this and discuss it, because history is happening right now". That was pretty amazing. [/QUOTE]
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