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<blockquote data-quote="Lupin" data-source="post: 9271960" data-attributes="member: 7042758">What I agree with mamba on is that WotC will not put older editions in CC, including 3e/3.5e.Kyle Brink said &quot;Yeah, I don't see why not&quot; when Ted (Nerd Immersion) asked him about creating SRDs for other older editions (including 4th), while noting that it would take a good bit of time and energy to make them. But then, Kyle also said he expected the 3.5 SRD to be CC by the end of '23...which it very easily could have been, and wasn't. I think someone in the chain of command is deliberately stalling any such releases because there is no compelling reason for them to. So it just ends up being a lot of PR smoke—whether it set out to be or not—that no one takes them to task for.My argument is only that there is value for 3PP to have the older editions being placed in CC, and that Wizards of the Coast should be honoring their commitments. Having watched their actions over this past year, they clearly will not. When they pull stuff like this, it sure doesn't compel me to reward them by buying their new books, digitally or physically.Edit: Also, they are absolutely using weasel words in their Community Updates to get out of doing much of anything to update the SRD for 2024 rules. Ensuring the 2024 rules are &quot;compatible&quot; with the SRD is a whole lot different from &quot;updating the SRD to include the new core rules in CC.&quot; Didn't they say at the Creator's Summit that they would be putting all the new rules in the SRD?Edit 2: Apparently Chris Perkins said at the Summit, &quot;Any mechanical changes will be brought into the SRD so you won't have to buy the new books for the mechanic changes.&quot; I wonder what they imagine when they say mechanical changes as opposed to alternatives. (For example, they might include new rules for exhaustion, but revised classes are omitted as they are simply &quot;alternatives&quot; to the 2014 classes.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lupin, post: 9271960, member: 7042758"] What I agree with mamba on is that WotC will [I]not[/I] put older editions in CC, including 3e/3.5e. Kyle Brink said "Yeah, I don't see why not" when Ted (Nerd Immersion) asked him about creating SRDs for other older editions (including 4th), while noting that it would take a good bit of time and energy to make them. But then, Kyle [I]also[/I] said he expected the 3.5 SRD to be CC by the end of '23...which it [B]very[/B] easily could have been, and wasn't. I think someone in the chain of command is deliberately stalling any such releases because there is no compelling reason for them to. So it just ends up being a lot of PR smoke—whether it set out to be or not—that no one takes them to task for. My argument is only that there is value for 3PP to have the older editions being placed in CC, and that Wizards of the Coast [I]should[/I] be honoring their commitments. Having watched their actions over this past year, they clearly will not. When they pull stuff like this, it sure doesn't compel me to reward them by buying their new books, digitally or physically. Edit: Also, they are absolutely using weasel words in their Community Updates to get out of doing much of anything to update the SRD for 2024 rules. Ensuring the 2024 rules are "compatible" with the SRD is a whole lot different from "updating the SRD to include the new core rules in CC." Didn't they say at the Creator's Summit that they would be putting all the new rules in the SRD? Edit 2: Apparently Chris Perkins said at the Summit, "Any mechanical [I]changes [/I]will be brought into the SRD so you won't have to buy the new books for the mechanic changes." I wonder what they imagine when they say mechanical changes as opposed to alternatives. (For example, they might include new rules for exhaustion, but revised classes are omitted as they are simply "alternatives" to the 2014 classes.) [/QUOTE]

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