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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 3746833" data-attributes="member: 21169">For a lot of people, myself included, D&D breaks at high level. The designers have recognised the sweet spot as being 4-14 so 4e seeks to preserve it, extending it out to 1-30. So it might be more to your taste than you suppose. Also magic items will no longer be a necessity, due to the buffs they provide being so great.I've been allowing magic item purchase in my current game but I think I'll disallow it for my next campaign, and try to make magic items more interesting - the basic stat buffers are just too boring.I don't agree with your point about consequences though. In a way, raise dead needs to be in the game precisely so PCs face long term consequences. After all if PCs are dying all the time they won't have to stick around to 'face the music'. They will never see the bad effects their actions may have caused.You're probably right to change system altogether. D&D just doesn't do grim n' gritty.</blockquote>