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<blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 1332997" data-attributes="member: 8704"><p>Yes that's why big channels are not dedicated to one specific genre, they play to a wide audience. It's why Fox wasn't hurt as bad publicity wise by the Firefly thing. SciFi has been trying to widen it's market for a while now it's one of the things that makes them suck to a fan but it is pretty smart, the problem is that they can only broaden so much before they are the USA channel instead of SciFi (which will never be allowed to happen). Thing is it's when you have a programming lul, where you don't have anything standing out that the dedicated audience will be around but the casual one will be tuning out. Pro Wrestling is going through that right now, they lost the casual audience do to a lackluster product at present, yet they still generate enough numbers with the dedicated fans to stay on the air, they have dropped from getting 6's and 7's to getting 2's and 3's in the ratings. When this will hurt SciFi channel is if they don't get something decent on after Stargate SG1 ends to anchor their network. They are a one trick pony right now (10 hours of Stargate SG1 a week), what if Atlantis doesn't catch on? It's the fans that will keep you afloat when times get tough.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> No my point was that he would never come out and say he doesn't care about your vote. Look SciFi don't give a crap about the fans, it's a given in the entertainment industry, but you shouldn't tell the fans that. My point is that if you have good PR you don't catch near as much of this flack, they need to stop shooting themselves in the foot here. It's not the fans fault they are upset, it's SciFi coming out and basically saying "we cancelled Farscape because we really don't care about anything but saving some money, kiss our asses". With just a little bit of planning and some common sense they could of pulled off the Farscape cancellation thing and put it all back on Henson productions, they tried to pitifully and way to late anyway. Start with this statement: "We tried to run a half season but they said no, we had no other options available to us, maybe if you write them and get them to agree to the half season we can air it." Then stick to it no matter what, they can't even keep their story straight on what happened now. It really is that simple. No press campaign, no phonecalls and 100,000 e-mail floods, it's all "well at least they tried somehting to save it". </p><p> </p><p>Well there was no reason they couldn't have both groups, that's my point. Look they got demanding fans whether they like it or not, if they can't cope with that then maybe they picked the wrong audience to cater to originally. See Science Fiction fans are going to keep bugging them and keep costing them money for years to come, (we really are fanatics about this stuff, more so than any other niche audience out there, except maybe the prowrestling fan who lives to gripe on the internet). Invisible Man then Farscape then Galactica what's next, your going to have the complaining but isn't it better to have them watching and griping rather than not watching and griping? The griping is just part of doing business in this genre (just ask the Star Trek producers). </p><p> </p><p>What kind of idiots allow the star of their major event special of the year to ask more than 200,000 fans to tune out? He didn't even ask them to give it a chance he told them to just hate it sight unseen and get it over with. Maybe if they were nice to these people and maybe even pretended to actually care about their concerns more of them would of given it a chance? Just imagine if Matt LeBlanc released a statement like "If you loved Friends then the last thing you should ever do is watch my new show Joey, just watch Friends reruns and never give my show a chance, trust me if you like Friends you'll hate my spinoff of it." The NBC execs would kill him. </p><p> </p><p>I'm not asking them to care about me or my concerns or even to listen to me, I'm asking them to stop insulting me and maybe to learn how to lie to me better, I don't have to take this kind of abuse from Cartoon Network. I don't think it's too much for me to ask for them to not actively rub their utter contempt for me in my face, just smile and pretend to like me and I'll watch your crappy shows why is that such a bad deal for them, it works for NBC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdavis, post: 1332997, member: 8704"] Yes that's why big channels are not dedicated to one specific genre, they play to a wide audience. It's why Fox wasn't hurt as bad publicity wise by the Firefly thing. SciFi has been trying to widen it's market for a while now it's one of the things that makes them suck to a fan but it is pretty smart, the problem is that they can only broaden so much before they are the USA channel instead of SciFi (which will never be allowed to happen). Thing is it's when you have a programming lul, where you don't have anything standing out that the dedicated audience will be around but the casual one will be tuning out. Pro Wrestling is going through that right now, they lost the casual audience do to a lackluster product at present, yet they still generate enough numbers with the dedicated fans to stay on the air, they have dropped from getting 6's and 7's to getting 2's and 3's in the ratings. When this will hurt SciFi channel is if they don't get something decent on after Stargate SG1 ends to anchor their network. They are a one trick pony right now (10 hours of Stargate SG1 a week), what if Atlantis doesn't catch on? It's the fans that will keep you afloat when times get tough. No my point was that he would never come out and say he doesn't care about your vote. Look SciFi don't give a crap about the fans, it's a given in the entertainment industry, but you shouldn't tell the fans that. My point is that if you have good PR you don't catch near as much of this flack, they need to stop shooting themselves in the foot here. It's not the fans fault they are upset, it's SciFi coming out and basically saying "we cancelled Farscape because we really don't care about anything but saving some money, kiss our asses". With just a little bit of planning and some common sense they could of pulled off the Farscape cancellation thing and put it all back on Henson productions, they tried to pitifully and way to late anyway. Start with this statement: "We tried to run a half season but they said no, we had no other options available to us, maybe if you write them and get them to agree to the half season we can air it." Then stick to it no matter what, they can't even keep their story straight on what happened now. It really is that simple. No press campaign, no phonecalls and 100,000 e-mail floods, it's all "well at least they tried somehting to save it". Well there was no reason they couldn't have both groups, that's my point. Look they got demanding fans whether they like it or not, if they can't cope with that then maybe they picked the wrong audience to cater to originally. See Science Fiction fans are going to keep bugging them and keep costing them money for years to come, (we really are fanatics about this stuff, more so than any other niche audience out there, except maybe the prowrestling fan who lives to gripe on the internet). Invisible Man then Farscape then Galactica what's next, your going to have the complaining but isn't it better to have them watching and griping rather than not watching and griping? The griping is just part of doing business in this genre (just ask the Star Trek producers). What kind of idiots allow the star of their major event special of the year to ask more than 200,000 fans to tune out? He didn't even ask them to give it a chance he told them to just hate it sight unseen and get it over with. Maybe if they were nice to these people and maybe even pretended to actually care about their concerns more of them would of given it a chance? Just imagine if Matt LeBlanc released a statement like "If you loved Friends then the last thing you should ever do is watch my new show Joey, just watch Friends reruns and never give my show a chance, trust me if you like Friends you'll hate my spinoff of it." The NBC execs would kill him. I'm not asking them to care about me or my concerns or even to listen to me, I'm asking them to stop insulting me and maybe to learn how to lie to me better, I don't have to take this kind of abuse from Cartoon Network. I don't think it's too much for me to ask for them to not actively rub their utter contempt for me in my face, just smile and pretend to like me and I'll watch your crappy shows why is that such a bad deal for them, it works for NBC. [/QUOTE]
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