Gallipoli in Heroes of Battle

[Wilphe]

Pea Ridge was indeed a battle fought in the American Civil War. And the Battle of Fallen Timbers was after the USA's independence, fought against the Native Americans for control of the Northwest Territories.

Oh, and I always wondered what the Revolutionary War was called in England. Cool!

Demiurge out.

Atcually that's just my name for it.
It normally gets called "The American War of Independence"


Also, it is me, or do "Pea Ridge" and "The Battle of Fallen Timbers" sound remarkably like module titles?

 

[SWBaxter]

Except it is in the context of "Recognition Points" for participating in a single major battle. And lumping an entire theatre of war, and at that one of the two major theaters of war of the entire struggle into the same context as a single battle of the Civil War?!? Do you have no sense of proportion or history?!?

I know you're probably using hyperbole because you think it's cool or something, but the passage quoted makes the comparison between the entire western front of WWI and Gallipoli, it wasn't my decision to give those examples so I'll thank you to take your snark elsewhere. From the examples given, it's pretty clear in each pairing which is the more famous, and that's all I was addressing. If you happen to think a different set of examples would be better, well bully for you - take it up with WOTC rather than venting on somebody with better reading comprehension than you, they probably have people who are paid to be told they have "no sense of proportion or history".

 

[TerraDave]

I don't know how much I can add, but will reply anyways, as an American who has an interest in these things (and has visited the landing site and the cemetaries and monuments found there). Some random points.

1) Most Americans know very little of WWI. Even if they had heard of "Trench warfare" I doubt they would know what countries the trenches (or western front) were in.

2) Wizards sells books in other countries. The same books. Including England, Australia and New Zealand (and I have seen some in Turkey, through a local distributor).

3) Galipoli is the battle for Turkey and the Anzacs. It is well known in England (as far as these things go), if not as famous as the Somme. General histories of the war, published on both sides of the Atlantic, often give it quite a bit of emphasis. Both for its strategic implications (failure to relieve the Russians and defeat of the British Empire by a non-western European power) but also becuase it is different, and breaks of up the monotony of the western front. The few television series on WWI also give a fair amount of coverage

3.5) It is hard to imagine any student of WWI, even casual ones, not seeing mention of it.

4) It was a bone headed analogy. Trench figthing on the western front is not a proper comparison to individual battles (it would be comporable to "Tank warfare", "submarine warfare", "dogfighting" etc). And Gallipoli is one of the best known battles of a largely forgotten war. There are litterly thousands of battles that could have been chosen instead.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

Y'know, this whole debate has just gone down the toilet when you get two posts that state, directly: "You're wrong!" "No, you are!"

You're wrong!

(Okay, I am joking. )

I also thought that Gallipoli was an odd choice for an example. There are a lot more obscure ones, and famous battles that meant next to nothing. (Battle of New Orleans, fought after the war of 1812 had ended...)

Mind you, if I ran the PCs through a game that came even close to the tactics in WWI (or worse the Battle of the Wilderness in the ACW) the players would be screaming about how unfair I was. Way too many 'save or die' situations, commanders who had bought their comissions, ugh.

I liked the book,but I also thought that a better grasp of World History 101 would have helped.

The Auld Grump