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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8625200" data-attributes="member: 19857">I'm trying to remember and I think it was mostly that it shifted from being a White Wolf game to being an Atlas Games game.  A whole lot of stuff got removed or changed from the game at that point because between 2nd and 3rd White Wolf changed a bunch of stuff about the assumptions of ArM to make it more compatible with their World of Darkness games.  I think (and again I might be wrong on this -it's been well over 20 years ) the folks who came in with 3rd were irritated about the changes and the folks who were there from 1e or 2e actually liked the move.It wasn't outright rejected by Ars folks, and in fact eventually it became a popular edition, but I do remember a subset of folks not moving on to 4e because they liked the White Wolf version more. I may also be conflating the events of the time together - it was a bit of a dark time for Ars as it was sold by White Wolf to Wizards of the Coast originally and they had Tweet working on the 4th edition, and then they bought TSR and their plans shifted suddenly and they sold Ars and their 4e rewrite to Atlas.  Some of the fan reaction I'm remembering might be less about the game itself and more about how it was being perceived as being passed around by companies at the time.(Oh my poor brain - being asked to dredge up 25 year old memories.  it's my own fault for having 25 year old memories I suppose).</blockquote>