Games you can win go in "Undefeated"

[Pramas]

I have to say I WANT more non-D&D in dragon. I used to love it when Dragon was a magazine for all role playing and not just D&D. But I suspect I am in the minority based on what folks said at Gen Con or maybe people who only want D&D are more vocal.

I agree. It was by reading Dragon as a 12 year old AD&D fan that I got exposed to all sorts of other games, especially from the review section. I was sad when the reviews got axed.

Now that said, there is a reason that nearly every general interest gaming mag has gone out of business or become a house organ. The number of gamers who want to read about a wide variety of games is sadly very small. There's a prevalent attitude that any section of a magazine that can't be immediately put to use is "wasted space". That's why the industry landscape is littered with the corpses of magazines, from Space Gamer to Shadis to White Wolf Magazine to the Familiar to Arcane to Adventures Unlimited to the Last Province and on and on. Even d20 focused publications have had it tough. Campaign is "on hiatus" (ie dead), Gaming Frontiers had to be sold to another company to clear its debt, and d20 Weekly lasted less than a year. The only real survivors are Pyramid (and it survived by going online only and having the SJG fanbase to back it up) and Valkyrie, which is pretty good but irregularly published. Then there's the EN World Player's Journal, which is both new and d20 focused (so not really a general interest magazine per se).

 

[shadow]

Preach on Brother! I'm so disappointed with Dragon lately. It's turned from the voice of the D&D fan community to a corporate advertisement dedicated to pimpin' the latest WotC product. Even worse is the emphasis on the new cheap, crappy miniature line. Until Dragon improves, I'm not reading it!

 

[Wormwood]

It's turned from the voice of the D&D fan community to a corporate advertisement dedicated to pimpin' the latest WotC product. Even worse is the emphasis on the new cheap, crappy miniature line. Until Dragon improves, I'm not reading it!

Fine. I'll read your copy.

Sorry, but I *like* the focus on WotC products. I *like* the support for the new D&D miniatures.

If I want to hear the 'voice of the D&D fan community', I'll come to sites like this or the official Wizards boards---but I wouldn't want to pay hard earned cash to do so.

I want semi-official, high-quality, user-friendly game product ever month. I like glossy map inserts, I like new and expanded rules, and I like all of it under the WotC Seal-of-Approval.

Dragon gives me all of that---so I'm a satisfied consumer.

ps. Some of us like the new D&D minis, and we appreciate Dragon devoting some space to enhancing our product. We voted with our wallets, so I think we deserve to be catered to.

 

[EricNoah]

In the spirit of providing feedback: I want support for D&D and fantasy d20 in Dragon; I don't want the minis stuff in there unless it's extremely portable to D&D/d20. I don't mind seeing non-fantasy stuff in there from time to time, but I am beginning to think of Poly as the place to go for that type of thing.

 

[Bloodstone Magi]

Here's another person who agrees with keeping D&D Miniatures-related material out of Dragon.

Cheers!

 

[Tsyr]

ps. Some of us like the new D&D minis, and we appreciate Dragon devoting some space to enhancing our product. We voted with our wallets, so I think we deserve to be catered to.

I don't track with that logic, sorry.

I buy Magic: The Gathering cards, but I don't expect to see support for them in Dragon Magazine... nor would I want to. Any more than I would expect to or want to find mini articles in the same mag.

You bought product A (The mini game). Product A is not is not Catagory B (Roleplaying Games, and D20 in specific), so why should you expect to find support for it in magazine C (Dragon) which is a magazine devoted to B? And I vote with my wallet too. I pay for magazine C because of, and only because of, their coverage of B. Every article they devote to A is one not devoted to B, therefor, I am not being catered to as I would like.

 

[Wormwood]

Product A is not is not Catagory B (Roleplaying Games, and D20 in specific),

The Miniatures Handbook is a fully supported D&D accessory, and minis maps are useful in tabletop D&D games.

If Wizards ever did a d20 version of Magic cards, I would expect support for them in Dragon as well.

Dragon supports WotC D&D product. Wizards wants the minis supported as such, Dragon is complying.

 

[JeffB]

Here's another person who agrees with keeping D&D Miniatures-related material out of Dragon.

Cheers!

And another.

 

[Simplicity]

I don't mind minis material in Dragon, though I would prefer
previews to "here's a new scenario" type articles. Gee,
Dragon prints an article on the minis during the month that
the Miniatures Handbook comes out. These are the official
Mass Battle and Skirmish rules for D&D now...

Personally, I like the minis. I think they're useful to people who
use the miniatures for D&D battles. I don't see the problem here.

I wouldn't mind moving into Poly, however. It might actually make
some of Poly useful to me for once.