Gaming W/Jemal - Epic Mortal Kombat (Character creation.)

[Shayuri]

[sblock=Jemal]Hadn't thought about it...it's an intriguing idea. On the other hand, Athear has been in the planes most of his life, while I see this new dragon as being something of a material plane-sticking sort, if that's congruent with your campaign background. As for the Great Sea, I suspect he regards 'Big C' as something as a role model, and is attempting to follow in his footsteps. There are only a few roads to true immortality for dragons, and Ascending is one of the few that lets a dragon -remain- a dragon. Sea, as one of the more successful in that line, would naturally be an inspiration for like-minded drakes. Suggestions are always entertained though![/sblock]

 

[Jemal]

[sblock=Jemal]Hadn't thought about it...it's an intriguing idea. On the other hand, Athear has been in the planes most of his life, while I see this new dragon as being something of a material plane-sticking sort, if that's congruent with your campaign background. As for the Great Sea, I suspect he regards 'Big C' as something as a role model, and is attempting to follow in his footsteps. There are only a few roads to true immortality for dragons, and Ascending is one of the few that lets a dragon -remain- a dragon. Sea, as one of the more successful in that line, would naturally be an inspiration for like-minded drakes. Suggestions are always entertained though![/sblock]

[sblock=Shayuri]Well, here's something to keep in mind : The Great C is a title, not just a single dragon.[/sblock]

 

[Vertexx69]

what is star metal and why does everyone have it, how much does it cost etc.?

[sblock=jemal]Does that Mic thing apply to all non epic item abilities or just those 7 or 8 mentioned? How much would it cost to add wounding (+2) to my souldrinker composite bow (+5 and 2d4 negative lvls for 478k)? Should I treat it like going from +5 epic to +7 epic and add 670k to the price? Or non epic and only add 48k? Either is fine by by me, I'm just wondering. Can we have inteligent item qualities? The srd says primaries cost 2-10k each so see invis/at will would most likely be a 10ker, uncanny dodge would be 6-8k, imp sunder 6-8k and the like?[/sblock]

[sblock=darimaus]Competence bonuses dont stack, so with the +10 from paragon and the +20 from boots of swiftness or cloak of great steath you only use the higher of the 2. The +30 skill bumps cost 900k and +40 bumps cost 1.6 mil each before your X1.5 to add them to items.[/sblock]

 

[Jemal]

Vertex - Starmetal is from on of the completes. It's basically Adamantine plus it's got some special affects against Outsiders(?i think).

The cheap stacking only applies to those abilities that were mentioned.

A +2 Wounding Souldrinker would cost 1,408,000 (Plus MW weapon)

And you can have any Intelligent item that's allready stated (As with normal items, you don't get to design it yourself). Such as Zax, cloak of kings

 

[Darimaus]

[sblock=darimaus]Competence bonuses dont stack, so with the +10 from paragon and the +20 from boots of swiftness or cloak of great steath you only use the higher of the 2. The +30 skill bumps cost 900k and +40 bumps cost 1.6 mil each before your X1.5 to add them to items.[/sblock]

I'm not quite sure what you are getting at. Step one, if you peruse my skill list, NONE of my stats use more than one competance bonus. So wherever you're assuming I am, its flat out incorrect. Step two, I'm not adding the climbing to the Boots of Swiftness, I'm adding the Boots of Swiftnesss to the Boots of Climbing. This means the 1.5 multiply is on the cost of the boots of swiftness NOT the boots of +40 climbing. And that +30 to Move Silently is the one ALREADY granted by the Mantle of Great Stealth, I didn't change anything.

One other thing btw. How did you convert a specific weapon thats a bastard sword into a bow? (I.E. Your souldrinker). That doesn't fall into the change slot rules, and Souldrinker isn't an enhancement.

 

[Jemal]

According to the Stacking Rules, You take the full (100%) cost of the MOST EXPENSIVE item, and add 150% of each other ability you're adding.
I believe that in this case that is what Darimaus did.
However, (And keep in mind i havent gone over yoru sheet yet), the Paragon bonus is Competence, and thus IT wouldn't stack with any items. Not sure if you had taken that into account, but there it is just in case.
As for the SoulDrinker, I hadn't noticed he was using it as a bow...
While it IS fairly simple to change weapons like that, I would prefer it I were asked first. If I was, then please point my to the post where I gave my answer. If I haven't previously said that it was allowed, then I'm going to have to rule NO on switching from between categories(melee to ranged, or Slashing to Piercing to Bludgeoning), but within those categories it should be ok, as the only difference in price would be the difference between the Base weapon. (IE a MW staff is 300 wheras a MW Heavy Mace is 312. The magic costs the same).

ALSO, [sblock=DARIMAUS ONLY PLEASE]
Sorry I blew up at you on MSN the other day. If I log on will we be able to talk about it a bit more civilly?
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[Vertexx69]

Ok then, would so would a souldrinder falchion be ok since they are both slashing?

[sblock=Jemal]Ok so we arent allowed to have any epic Inteligent item abilities since there are no premade epic inteligent items? I had taken a couple of common sense steps for granted, so please allow me to back up and break them down for you:

Sunder in the PHB says you can attempt a sunder with either a slashing or bludgeoning weapon.

I had purchased (gone now) a Falchion of Ruin ELH(1,000,375) (Since I couldn't fathom how a bludgeoning weapon could sunder anything supple like a cloak or belt) that was semiempathic (1k) and gave the wielder free use of the Improved Sunder feat (10k)
and a +5 defending gaunlet that was semiempathic (1k) and gave use of Imp. Init.(10k) and Mobility (10k) feats (as these made sense to me).

After looking through my sheet again I also saw something I forgot to run by you:
Capote of dragonfly wings (cloak)DR335 p.69 - gives beings with a fly speed +5 fly speed and 1 better maneuverability class. +4 enh to dex, -4 to move silent checks from constant buzzing, wind effects treat wearer as 2 sizes smaller. 85,000g

I Don't know if there is a specific quiver for epic lvl archers (all of which can shoot 25-40 arrows as a full-round action) that holds more than 60 arrows (quiver of elohna) so I stacked it 10 times so it holds 600 arrows (about 20 rounds of combat) intead of some sort of Quiver of infinite arrows. Then I bought barrels of arrows and put them in my portable hole to refill the quiver (as they are all non-magical arrows. I hope its acceptable )[/sblock]

 

[Vertexx69]

[sblock=darimaus]

I'm not quite sure what you are getting at. Step one, if you peruse my skill list, NONE of my stats use more than one competance bonus. So wherever you're assuming I am, its flat out incorrect. Step two, I'm not adding the climbing to the Boots of Swiftness, I'm adding the Boots of Swiftnesss to the Boots of Climbing. This means the 1.5 multiply is on the cost of the boots of swiftness NOT the boots of +40 climbing. And that +30 to Move Silently is the one ALREADY granted by the Mantle of Great Stealth, I didn't change anything.

Apoligies Darimaus, I didn't mean to sound accusatory. Several people have said they weren't used to building this high of level or haven't played in many a moon until recently (raises hand vigorously) so its easy to miss little things like mantle of stealth is an actual item instead of just a skill booster ;p Just trying to help which is why I sblocked it. Peace brother [/sblock]

 

[Jemal]

[sblock=Vertex]
Souldrinker Falchion is acceptable.
I'll give you a Quiver of Endless Arrows at the same cost as the 10X stacked one you have. It can produce infinite NORMAL arrows at will, and can store up to 600 'special' arrows(MW, Magic, Silver, Adamantine, etc). Calling up any particular arrow takes no extra action. If it is ever inside an Antimagic field, it has 60 arrows available and they do not 'restock' until it's magic is restored (as by leaving the field).

As for Intelligent items, I'm still gonna say no to anything player created, sorry.

The buzzing wings are OK.. Is the speed bonus Enhancement?
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[Voidrazor]

[sblock=Voidrazor]A little extra info you might have missed, you get the +12 con mod from your giant warcroc lycanthopy, but you only get the str/dex/con mods when in hybrid or animal form and you cant speak, and a -2 to hit and AC from being huge size. [/sblock]

Thanks for the reminder. I'll mark the size mods as soon as I get a chance and look for some form of telepathic communication.